New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: RS Q'ba
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

RS Q'ba

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>
Author
Medway Maniac View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 13 May 05
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2788
Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: RS Q'ba
    Posted: 15 Apr 09 at 12:04pm

You might also consider a Cadet, Alikat.

I was looking at possibilities for my godson and his brothers - we wanted a boat which would keep two crew-members busy rather than in effect a singlehander with room for two. I was struck by how much sail area a Feva has - we've found in our club training that it needs a fair bit of crew-weight in a wind.

The Cadet seems to have smaller sails than other viable two-man (child) boats, yet genuinely has role for two persons. Usefully lighter for them to manhandle ashore, too. GRP versions are pretty robust-looking, but cheap ones are also rare.

Back to Top
alikat1 View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 15 Apr 09
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1
Post Options Post Options   Quote alikat1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Apr 09 at 10:07am

Considering buying either a Qb'a or a Feva for my 2 daughters (aged 13 and 11, both weighing around 40 -45kg) and new to sailing. Was looking for a boat which they could manage , enjoy and deal relatively easily with a capsize.

Having looked at the specs of both boats ,comparing the 'basic' models there doesnt seem to be much in it. The Feva offers more scope for progression . The QBa sounds a slightly simpler version.

Does anyone have any views on pro's and con's of the 2 boats. What reasons would you have for opting for the Qba rather than the Feva?

Views welcomed

 

Back to Top
Captain Morgan View Drop Down
Far too distracted from work
Far too distracted from work
Avatar

Joined: 03 Sep 08
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 211
Post Options Post Options   Quote Captain Morgan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 08 at 2:26pm

skslr,

In answer to your questions:-

Car topping vs. trailering: I'm not a fan of car topping. I/we have lifted Lasers onto racks/car roof racks and that's difficult enough! There is always the danger that the hull or car will be damaged - and let's face it, lifting a hull to the required height is hard enough with 2-3 people.   ALL of the parts of the Q'BA will fit beneath the cover, though it would be a good idea to secure them. (The mast is in two parts that is easily dismantled, and can be stored under the cover with the halyard still connected.) The big sail (in it's bag) will lie comfortably under the cover.   Trailering would be my preferred option.

Strong winds of Force 5-6 are exceptional fun! The Q'BA really shifts even when using the small sail in a Force 5, though it isn't as competitive as a two-person dinghy. Force 5-6+, and the small sail becomes competitive, simply as other dinghies are depowering/spilling wind and/or capsizing! The Q'BA points really high when the sail is pulled tight, and offwind in these conditions it really is immense fun. The pressure is much more controllable than in other boats, and it is a case of going along for the ride - Lots of fun, speed, spray etc. but for a lot less effort

Rotomoulding vs GRP... Difficult issue here. You'll find so many threads against "plastic" boats in these forums, but there are also lots of us who do actually like rotomoulded dinghies. All I can say is that it depends on the design, and also whether you actually like the boat, if you can get over the plastic stigma

Personally, the Q'BA doesn't suffer from being plastic. It is short, so flexing is less of a problem. Even if it was rigid GRP, it wouldn't be appreciably faster because of the design and waterline length. The sides are nicely rounded so that hiking is very comfortable, which is a great advantage, and there are no awkwardly placed stiffening ribs in these areas which might lead to discomfort.

Hope this helps.

Back to Top
skslr View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 24 Jul 06
Location: Germany
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 139
Post Options Post Options   Quote skslr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 08 at 7:16am
Captain Morgan,

thank you for your answers so far!

It certainly helps there is someone out there who is actually sailing this thing

What do you think about car-topping vs. trailer?
Can you confirm that all parts of the boat when ready for sailing fit into the hull during transport? Does it work if you only roll the big sail?

Do you have any experiences in winds like Force 5?
(At least I guess my weight will be less of in issue then...)

If we leave the financial aspect aside, what do you think about roto moulding vs. GRP in regard to this specific boat?

Back to Top
Captain Morgan View Drop Down
Far too distracted from work
Far too distracted from work
Avatar

Joined: 03 Sep 08
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 211
Post Options Post Options   Quote Captain Morgan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Nov 08 at 12:52pm
Getting back on track... The drain in the cockpit floor does remove water from the cockpit very well. In really light winds (<8knots) I keep the bung in otherwise my weighty 78kg forces water up into the cockpit through the drain. Over about 8 knots of wind, I leave the bung out and the cockpit is totally self-bailing.
Back to Top
feva sailor View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 03 Sep 08
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 186
Post Options Post Options   Quote feva sailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 08 at 8:36pm
Originally posted by Villan

Originally posted by feva sailor

 

when joining the forum i had no intention of sailing it.
things change very rapidly in my world



Yes, But that doesnt mean you must mention it in every post. You'll give yourself a bad reputation at that rate! (*cough* cherub/i14 *cough* )

 

thanks for the 29er heads up

Back to Top
Villan View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 26 Nov 05
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1768
Post Options Post Options   Quote Villan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 08 at 5:47pm
Originally posted by feva sailor

 

when joining the forum i had no intention of sailing it.
things change very rapidly in my world



Yes, But that doesnt mean you must mention it in every post. You'll give yourself a bad reputation at that rate! (*cough* cherub/i14 *cough* )
Vareo - 149 "Secrets"
TandyUK Servers
Back to Top
feva sailor View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 03 Sep 08
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 186
Post Options Post Options   Quote feva sailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 08 at 3:44pm

Originally posted by Stevie_GTI

feva sailor....im sure i see you mention that you sail a 29er in most of your posts.lol

yes the 29er is  very recent.

 

when joining the forum i had no intention of sailing it.
things change very rapidly in my world

Back to Top
Lukepiewalker View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 24 May 06
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1341
Post Options Post Options   Quote Lukepiewalker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 08 at 9:44pm
There's a bung in the cockpit. I think there is enough underfloor buoyancy for it to drain through it with someone suitably light onboard. Filing that it'll do the self bailer thing...
Ex-Finn GBR533 "Pie Hard"
Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch"
Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air"
Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile"
Back to Top
skslr View Drop Down
Posting king
Posting king
Avatar

Joined: 24 Jul 06
Location: Germany
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 139
Post Options Post Options   Quote skslr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 08 at 9:30pm
How does the Q'ba get rid of water in the cockpit?

This

http://www.sail-world.com/europe/index.cfm?SEID=0&Nid= 38454&SRCID=0&ntid=29&tickeruid=0&tickerCID= 0

looks like there is no open transom and middle part of the cockpit floor being very low...


Edited by skslr
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.665y
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz
Change your personal settings, or read our privacy policy