Laser 140101 Tynemouth |
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Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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Glad to see that even the sailing anarchy folk were amazed by the forestay free gybe. Shan't be trying it on my boats - the mast tends to fall down! |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Asymmetrics can definitely give better reaching performance, especially tight reaching. If racing yachts choose to take the rating hit of carrying both (and there normally is a hit), that's the reason they do so.
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Asymmetrics tend to have a lower centre of pressure - the pole end is usually much lower - and have a longer luff. That means you can have more area for the same heeling moment and a higher aspect ratio which should give you more thrust per unit area. So it's win-win on a reach. That said, I haven't noticed a great advantage in practice on tighter reaches, perhaps not least because people tend to put such huge asymmetric kites on in order to boost performance on pure leeward courses, that the boats don't balance as well as they might. |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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Nice one Stefan, I must try that line! NB: do they REALLY disconnect the forestay? or just pull back the pole and reclip it on the new side. Is someone pulling my leg perchance?
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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I believe the IACCs have to disconnect the forestay in order to gybe. Ooh er. "Theirs is the so-called racer/cruiser category: boats that perform well enough to race but which are comfortable and easy enough for the family to daysail and cruise" That's the boat-show cushion syndrome. "Yes dear, of course it isn't just for me to race with my beer-drinking buddies. Look at those comfy cushions, it's a perfect cruiser too." The smaller J's are definitely raceboats. Edited by Stefan Lloyd |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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The ACCs are set off a conventional pole. Class rules prohibit the fixed sprit.
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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But set off a mast mounted movable pole or a fixed / slightly-movable bowsprit? This one is flown from a spinnaker pole, so it looks like a dinghy symetric & the sail looks pretty symetrical too. BUT in the 2nd photo, the kite is inside out, indicating that it is at least gybed like an asymetric! IE they reversed the kite during a gybe, reattaching the pole to the same corner of the sail? Best of both worlds? ![]() Here's a decent summary: http://saltashsc.proboards18.com/index.cgi?board=lessondb&am p;am p;action=display&thread=1122591041 forgive my ignorance, but I'm fascinated. Edited by NickA |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Oh yes, definitely. |
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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J-boats, yes indeed, but as it says in their brochure: "Theirs is the so-called racer/cruiser category: boats that perform well enough to race but which are comfortable and easy enough for the family to daysail and cruise" Also cruising shutes, I'm familiar with, but always thought they were for flotilla sailors (like me!) who can't be trusted with a "real" spinnaker. I was thinking more of Americas cup giants where launch difficulty isn't an issue but raw performance is. Any of those have asymetrics? Edited by NickA |
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