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    Posted: 28 Jul 06 at 3:28pm
Hi, I'm new to this forum, relatively new to sailboats having decided to
"retire" to the sit down arena after years of racing windsurfers and
decided to teach myself in a Musto Skiff as a first boat.

O.K. so I now know that was a mistake, and having spent the first half of
this summer rebuilding my confidence in something tamer I'm ready for
another boat.

Now, I'm a bit particular about stuff, and I sail from a gnarly beach with
'orrible shore dump so want a retracting centreboard. I quite got used to
banging the spinnaker up with the rudder handle thingy between my legs
on the musto, so quite like the assymetric rig and so far all I can see that
seems to fit my bill is the RS500.

Its a bit new, nothing in any of the searches I made prior to this post
seems to indicate exactly where it sits, how good a "ride" it is wether its a
half decent sea boat and what the optimum crew weight would be.

I'm quite light at around 67kg I have a couple of chums who are around
85kgs and occasionally want to bring my daughter on when its light.

So my questions other than above (Crew weight) are:

Has anybody here got one or sailed one, are there any alternatives that
would fit my bill (retracting centreboard assym rig), and anyone know
what the portsmouth yardstick (is it still called that) rating is for the 500?

Thanks in advance.

Oh yes one more thing I want to try and nail that wire business, so it must
have at least one wire, its tricky after years of having a boom to hang on
to, just the mental block of letting go with both hands.

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have you looked at the vago? pretty solidly built i think with a centerboard, wire and assy
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just choose whatever you want..but remember that dinghy sailors have a habit of wearing boots...and you can't get sails from Tushingham


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Originally posted by jpbuzz591

have you looked at the vago? pretty solidly built i
think
with a centerboard, wire and assy


Er funnily enough I did, at the London Boat show, but I dont have a crane
or similar lifting device to get it in and out of the water, and I want a half
decent chance of staying ahead of one of our newer members in his
Mirror.

Originally posted by laser4000


just choose whatever you want..but remember that dinghy sailors have a
habit of wearing boots...and you can't get sails from Tushingham


Yep, heaven innit?
I use splitties, and they smell I looked ridiculous last night, board
shorts, light impact vest, helmet and boots.

You know what would be heaven?

A 505 with a modern assym rig, now if someone built that....
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must admit I really enjoyed sailing the vago, although it's probably not high enough on the performance scale for grumpf

RS500, nah go get yourself an RS800
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Er is everyone on this site old school yellow wellie Osprey wallers, or outcast
neoprene boot wearing windsurfers from the Boards mag site?(Now the
wearing of neoprene boots is officially frowned on from above)

There must be some avant garde performance boat jockeys amongst y'all.

RS800 aint that twin trap? Thought that might be a bit advanced just yet.

Nothing sexy about having to frig around with some pole thing while the
boats bucking about like a woman you just called the wrong name at the
wrong time.

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I think if you want a wire, assy and centreboard, your choices are fairly limited, as most trap boats with an established class, will have a dagger board rather than centreboard, apart from the new fangled ones like vago and 500.
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Thanks jp, I am beginning to realise that.

Looks like the 500 then, any idea what crew wieght limitations and PY no it
races under. We have a bit of a mix at our club, with boats like the Boss,
lazer 4000, Iso, & 470's 505's with single handers called Supernovas in their
pitching along with lasers 2, 2000, & 3000 and the odd RS200.

So I just want something that sailed right can stay in touch with the front
runners and even when sailed badly doesn't drop so far back you can't learn
from your mistakes.
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Hi Graemef

Do you sail at Hythe?

I am looking to replace the topaz I currently sail there to a 2hander. I will probably choose a laser2 or 3000 due to their indistructable nature, enjoying sailing the laser 2 in the past and the fact that there should be good racing between boats for these classes.

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Out of interest why do you think the RS500 is more of a performance dinghy than an Osprey (not saying an Osprey is right for you, you may be a bit light, 59er with trap kit looks your best bet for what you are looking for ), from the provisional PY of the 500 an Osprey is faster than a 500?
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