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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Funny...I saw him in a cherub this weekend! |
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Chew my RS ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 790 |
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You want to buy mine then Jim? |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Oh nonsense Strawberry, I can't honestly think of a boat I like better for messing about in the surf next to the beach than a Laser. Its great for that,. and its pretty much what its designed for. The huge racing thing was kindof an accident!
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Strawberry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337 |
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Let's face it. The Laser class needs good fleets! The boat is a piece of sh*te and no no-one would sail it otherwise!
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I could be wrong Stefan, But I don't think many of those have 9 or more crew on board like my rather light hearted example... |
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timnoyce ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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I don't think this needs to get personal... Not everyone taking part in the nationals of the minority classes is there to win! If I wanted to prove i was the best sailor I would sail a Laser or a Finn. However, I don't.. so I sail a boat which is very tricky to sail and provides hours of amusement without the need for intense racing to get my kicks! There is more to a nationals than just sailing, think about the social side. Do I go and have a few beers and a laugh with my mates after sailing who also sail the class or go and have an ice bath with Ben and Mr $hite! mmmm, let me think. p.s. JimC doesn't sail a cherub any more... he sails a Int Canoe ![]() |
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I am sure there as many minority keelboat classes as there are dinghy classes ... But ... there are few keelboat classes that get 100+ boats. Rick |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Some recent Nationals attendances: SB3 52 J24 41 Salcombe Yawl 53 - who'd have guessed that Dragon 36 Etchells 36 The venerable XOD 79 So what 10-boat keelboat fleet were we talking about? These numbers are up there with all but a small number of the biggest dinghy fleets. Now remind us how many boats were at the last Cherub nationals. Clue, think of a number less than 20.
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In general I'd suggest it is easier to win in a small fleet than a large fleet. In a small fleet you can get away with errors and recover from bad starts - in a large fleet if you start 3rd row you have a mountain to climb to find clear air - in a small fleet you can crack off find a lane and off you go ... Also the luck element is nutralised more in a bigger fleet ... Rick Edited by Guest#260 |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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You're missing it Stefan. Chris' rather flippant point is that, whereas on a two or three person boat everyne has to be up to snuff, if you've got 9 people on a big boat, two of whom are there only to provide ballast on the beats, then provided the seven who run the boat are good enough the prime skill required from the ballast is to be the right weight and talk themselves onto the boat. It may well be just as difficult for the seven to win from a ten boat keelboat fleet as it is from a onehundred and seventy boat Laser fleet ('scuse me if I don't put money there though) but not for the other two, for whom the skills and performance required isn't that great between first and last. |
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