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    Posted: 10 Nov 08 at 9:51am
After a hard weekends sailing my wife is loosing faith in sailing as she is struggling with the genoa loads and putting the kite pole on the GP.  So my question is what weight will an RS200 carry? My wife and I weigh about 22 stone and i carry 14.5 of that and would be steering. I would ask on their forum but it seems to take forever to be granted access!
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Hi Merlin,

I used to sail a 200.  In my experience, over 21-22 stone struggles to be competitive in the marginal planing stuff. Th etop teams tend to be fairly light, but it depends how competitive you wish to be.  The biggest problem I had though was my weight (about 14 stone) in the back.  With that weight it is difficult to get the stern out unless you sit forward of the thwart whilst helming (which is difficult).  In summary, 14+ stone is really too heavy to helm a 200 competitively, but it'll be a much easier boat for your wife to manage.

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probably a tad heavy, you would end up being pretty uncomfortable in the boat. 400 might be a better choice if you wanted to take the one design route.
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Wont the 400 be to much for my wife who is only 5ft2 and 7-7.5 (wet) stone??  Whats the ideal helm weight for a 200??  I can feel another diet coming on!

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Russ, your definately a bit too heavy for a 200 (trust me on that one, me and
my mate weighed about 22-24 stone when we did the nationals and did not
have a good time!) have you had a go in the brothers 400?

iirc the ideal weight is 16-18 stone..

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MerlinBoy

Are you sailing inland or the sea (Can't remember where you are!) I find the inland sailing you want to be lighter so a 400 could be best. As for the sea, the 200 may fair better.

Me and OH have a 200 but are rather heavy for the boat. I think you would be  OK but I dont know for definate about the actual crew weights, I could ask for you on their yahoo group that tends to get replies a lot quicker.

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I'd say ideal helm weight would be around 11 stone (70kg) in a 200.  The 400 is a nicer boat in many ways, but the sheet loads will be too high for your wife I'm sure.  Have you thought about a Laser 2000?  They carry weight better than a 200, are easier to sail (less tippy) and actually are not much slower at all.  Or an NS14...
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Originally posted by Merlinboy

Wont the 400 be to much for my wife who is only 5ft2 and 7-7.5 (wet) stone??  Whats the ideal helm weight for a 200??  I can feel another diet coming on!

Probably about 12 stone max really. although there are heavier helms and there are teams at that weight in the 200.

You would be fine in the 400, they carry a very wide weight range. I believe Roj won the nats the first time just over 21 stone. And they will happily carry 28. also being 14 stone at the widest part of the boat will help you out alot.

 The loads arent any more than the 200. in fact the jib is less in stong winds (due to the fact that the turning point is a plastic eye, rather than a ratchet block on the 400.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Merlinboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 08 at 11:21am

I Might have to have a go in my bros 400, I sail mainly inland but travel lots so sea and inland venues.  I do worry about scaring the wife with a 400 and putting her off completly.  A 2000 is an absolute no no.  I could get a much much newer 400 for my money the 200, but the class is dying off at the moment.  Sounds like a diet is the way to go! 

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote timeintheboat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Nov 08 at 11:37am
In my GP14 days with the missus the genoa loads were a problem when breezy and we made sure the genoa was in before the loads came on - which didn't always lead to good tacks.

You could also try auto ratchets.

As for the pole - there are loads of way of rigging pole systems - what about a self launcher?
Like some other things - sailing is more enjoyable when you do it with someone else
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