New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: Sensible boats?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

Sensible boats?
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234 5>
Author
  Share Topic Share Topic  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
tickel View Drop Down
Far too distracted from work
Far too distracted from work
Avatar

Joined: 21 Dec 05
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 408 		Post Options Post Options   Quote tickel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Sensible boats?
    Posted: 11 Jul 06 at 11:27pm
My son, Lightning 368 national champ in 2005 got bored over the winter and bought a Magnum 8 Moth. What fun on a small lake, speed and splashes. When he broke it for the umpteenth time in two months he got his old Lightning out again. Bliss, he could think tactcs instead of survival and sail with delicacy and finnesse. He then won the Lightning Nationals 2006. Result, back in the bl**dy moth. There must be a moral in this story. I just carry on mending it.
tickel
Back to Top
Rupert View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 11 Aug 04
Location: Whitefriars sc
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8956 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 06 at 6:26pm
I'm guessing the Swift Solo...
Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
Back to Top
Matt Jackson View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 04
Location: Darlington
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 962 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Matt Jackson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 06 at 5:52pm
I take it we're not talking about the smaller (but rather Rooneyesque) brother of the Shearwater are we?
Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36
Back to Top
TeamFugu View Drop Down
Groupie
Groupie
Avatar

Joined: 24 Dec 05
Location: United States
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 80 		Post Options Post Options   Quote TeamFugu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 06 at 3:59pm
I know that some like to take the safe road but if you never push the envelope, you never find out how far you can go. Racing and high performance sailing is not all there is to sailing by any means but I'd hate to think of a life without extreme boats and extreme sailors to sail them. I have both worlds. I have a Swift to push the envelope and a lead mine for when I want to dring a cold one and sail with the family. Having the Swift to master has rekindled my love for sailing and my lust for life. To not have tried to build and sail the Swift because it was out of my league would have been the biggest mistake of my life. At 104kg and 40+ years, I could be concidered too old and big to go there but I'm glad I did.
Live large, love life, and sail fast.
Swift Sol Home, http://swiftsolo.com
Back to Top
Guests View Drop Down
Guest Group
Guest Group
Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 06 at 3:32pm
Originally posted by JimC


And of course the RS600 demonstrated this too, they virtually never
sail with the small rig do they?


Exactly right!  Ive only diddy rigged mine once and never again, reaching and downwind speed is almost non existant!  I think paul smalley summed it up best and i quote "If its windy enough to use the diddy rig then its too windy to be sailing!"

.......though he is a fair bit heavier than me


Edited by Doug.H
Back to Top
Matt Jackson View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 04
Location: Darlington
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 962 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Matt Jackson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 06 at 1:06pm

Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Matt Jackson

The problem now is that I think
it is undercanvassed and want a bit more for the light
stuff.

When you think about it its quite ridiculous to expect
to carry the same rag in 30 knots as in 3 knots - the
side force is what, 100 times greater?

I guess, but some boats manage it better than others. Does a boat that is 'sailable' in 3kts and 30kts always going to be dull do you think?

Of the boats mentioned here (IMO) Contender - Dog below 8kts. Fireball - Dull below 8kts. AC - unsailable in 25kts?. Phantom - unsailable in 25kts?

I know everyone will disagree and I don't want to hijack this thread so I'll start another - here



Edited by Matt Jackson
Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36
Back to Top
JimC View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 17 May 04
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6662 		Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 06 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by Matt Jackson

The problem now is that I think
it is undercanvassed and want a bit more for the light
stuff.

When you think about it its quite ridiculous to expect
to carry the same rag in 30 knots as in 3 knots - the
side force is what, 100 times greater? The trouble is
that different size rigs is such a hassle, and from
personal experience I can assure you that in a single
sail boat is just about always worth handing on to the
bigger rig upwind because you suffer so badly downwind
if you don't, especially in the lulls. And iof course
the RS600 demonstrated this too, they virtually never
sail with the small rig do they?
Back to Top
Matt Jackson View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 04
Location: Darlington
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 962 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Matt Jackson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 06 at 12:52pm
By the way, if someone had said it was a sensible boat when I first got into a Contender I doubt if I'd stayed in it... but I was younger then
Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36
Back to Top
Matt Jackson View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 04
Location: Darlington
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 962 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Matt Jackson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 06 at 12:49pm

When I first got into a Contender I couldn't understand how people in the class said you can sail it in anything but I finally get it. The problem now is that I think it is undercanvassed and want a bit more for the light stuff. So my limits are reversed ie. it's not fear when it's windy but lack of concentration when it's light that's the killer.

I even considered getting a Phantom for those light days even though I'm a few pies short of ideal weight - maybe it's those like me that struggle on windier days in Phantoms?



Edited by Matt Jackson
Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36
Back to Top
Xpletive View Drop Down
Far too distracted from work
Far too distracted from work


Joined: 28 Jan 06
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 320 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Xpletive Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 06 at 10:25am

It was ideal kite-blasting weather over the weekend.........even on bumpy water!

 



Edited by Xpletive
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1234 5>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.665y
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz
Change your personal settings, or read our privacy policy