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Strawberry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337 |
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If I brew a particually black ale, with a particually white head, where the bubbles appear to fall rather than rise. Is it ok to call it Guiness? I think if I did the Irish would get very upset (and I would have a rather large law-suit over my head). But maybe I could call it "Guiness-like". For the same reasons, the Australians get upset when we call boats, which may be "skiff-like", skiffs. |
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Jamie ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Jul 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 164 |
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Isn't it something to do with a boat that has little inherent stability? I have a vague memory that if you leave your vessel to it's own device and it stands upright then it's a boat. And if it tries to fall over, (has to rest on a wing or whatever.) when you leave it by itself then it's a skiff. But that might be a definition of something else.
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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look i have found a skiff!! Edited by carshalton fc |
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charlie w ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Oct 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 84 |
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As a keen fastsail bod, I can't see the problem with collective types of boat getting together under an umbrella. good idea, say I. However, wasn't the heritage/idea of Aussie "skiff" sailing, that the boats had to be lethally fast; extreme to sail; and hellish to control - oh yes, and no rocker whatsoever, so the boats sailed like bricks until they were planing. Most of the current fare would seem a bit too well behaved and sanitised for that "tag", so how about another word......smodiffs? No....okay, probably not...."skiffs" it is...! |
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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Not really the same. Guinness is just a stout with a registered name. Now if you called a Cherub an RS200 you would be correct. The problem is that the word skiff is very old and can mean practically any open boat in everyday language and it's only in dinghy racing terms that it has a specific meaning (I seem to remember they go on about skiffs in 'Tom Sawyer' but the are just flat bottomed open boats for fishing). We shouldn't routinely refer to 'skiff-like' boats as Skiffs and in fact the continental Contender sailors almost managed to get our website url to be www.contenderskiff.org until we pointed out how bloody daft it was. |
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Skiffe ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jun 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 220 |
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SCOW???? I don't think so!!!!!!!! |
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Skiffe ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jun 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 220 |
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Someone here must like popcorn like at sailing anackay. If your boat can show a direct linage from the rowing boat above then YES it is a skiff. For those who came in late then "Aussie skiffs" are related to this style of boat and in fact are a DEVELOPMENT of this boat. An RS200 Boss or whatever other SMOD type boat is an IMITATION SKIFF, a bit like the Foiling moth and the Bladerider, foiling moth Original, Bladerider Imitation Foiling Moth. There are other boats that are traditionally called skiffs, St Laurence(sp?) and these are acceptable due to TRADITION something that any SMOD designer would love to have. For the older types here You might remember that ever car maker had for a while a GT or GTi. This label is not used as much now but was the sign of a performance car even if it was fitted to a Cortina with a 1600cc engine that i could beat with a startled snail. To summarize Skiffs have Tradition SMOD "SKIFFS" are a marketing term. |
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If you've read all my posts then you've seen that im more than willing to use a different word for all the smod skiffs to fall into.
Doug P.S Aussie skiff sailors must really hate the "musto skiff" then?? Edited by Doug.H |
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allanorton ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 21 Nov 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 228 |
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I totally agree, skiff is a very old term for a small boat, so the term skiff should really apply to boats which have some heritage, eg 18's |
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Skiffe ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jun 05 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 220 |
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So what the word and are you going to have the marketing budject to promote it? No we don't hate Musto skiffs just we don't get them(they all might get burnt) |
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