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    Posted: 26 Jun 06 at 11:32pm

Hmm, I think I'm getting a bit weird in my old age, but I've decided this summer that I rather like club handicap racing.

The challenge of keeping up with the Solos in light wind and of avoiding the cats when it is blowing is rather entertaining, as is the unusual mental challenge of trying to remember which marks to go round, and which way to pass them, nevermind trying to work our which marks are actually where on the reservoir. A refreshing change from windward leeward.

I also like the fact that you get to 'race' a different boat or two on each leg, and you never know whose won till long after. Still, it would be even nicer if there was another Cherub to play with in the fleet. 

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Originally posted by boatshed

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Practice for what? Fleet racing?

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The other thing in favour of handicap racing is that you have to keep pushing 100% all the way to the line. In class racing, once in the lead you can relax, relatively speaking, playing Mr Nasty if anybody gets close.

That's a bit contentious, I know. What I really like about h'cap racing is that it's like time-trialling rather than racing, which I prefer. I tend to get irritated if people get in the way of me enjoying my sail, and equally, I feel I'm cheating if I use the rules to gain an advantage (as opposed to just sorting an uncontrived right of way issue) or get in other people's way.



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In my experience, handicap racing may be fine on a large open area of water. On a confined pond with windshadows and obstructions, in the predominantly light winds we get, it's a complete waste of time in some boats, unless you actually like watching other boats disappear ahead, taking all your wind, then watch the next lot coming to get you. Not for me.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote MRJP BUZZ 585 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 06 at 7:54am
I like handicap at chew as firstly it makes a change from windward leward and also it is nice to have alsorts of boats and the surprise of how well you do at the end
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I prefer class racing as it gives you a chance to see how you are doing. Also handicap racing is good if there is a small fleet of your own class and you get the best of both worlds
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They both have their attractions, that is why so many people sail the Laser who are either too big or too small so they get the 'fleet' racing.

I moved away from fleet racing for a new challenge so all my racing is now done as handicap. I am enjoying it more as it is me and the boat against the clock. Some times the wind is in your favour, some times it is not you just have to sail the boat to best advantage.

You also have to push all the way through the race sometimes unless you know you have a big enough gap (it is surprising how far you have to be ahead of a Topper to beat it on handicap).
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I always felt I should travel more but moving so far from the class heartland has made this a pain. I'm starting to enjoy handicap racing more although it does help to have some other boats in your class or very similar yardstick. Furballs for instance are a little quicker overall but we are quicker upwind (once trapezing) so we end up trading places constantly in a good race.

I think the Contender is equally blessed and cursed with it's yardstick, sailing well below in light wind, a fair bit quicker when it blows but crucially remaining sailable when it howls. This means that if you stick with it over a long series, which you really only get with club racing, it usually evens out... not surprisingly I suppose.



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All sailing is fun and all types of racing have their merits.

However, I see no pleasure in winning anything just because I sought out a dinghy with a bandit handicap ...

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Any chance of you coming to the medway regatta 8th/9th july and doing a bit of handicap racing in your mussy skiff??
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