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Philsy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 344 |
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DiverSteve ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 28 |
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Thanks for the great responses. I sail at Chichester. They have a very active Solo fleet, like most clubs several Lasers and then an assortment that make up the handicap fleet. Solo does look rather dull though perhaps I can be convinced that pipe and slippers are not compulsory! Yes, my laser sailing has been all on holiday boats so probably not a good representation of the breed though I still feel laser could do with an update from scratch rather than just incremental changes - sort of a Pico with more punch. I did wonder about the Rooster 8.1 mod though. I like the RS300 but wonder what the learning curve is like on one and how much wind I could cope with. Stability doesn't look to be on the menu of features. Chap at RS said it is a lot more extreme than the RS600 for example. The Blaze ticks a lot of my needs so is certainly on the shortlist. Perhaps Phil I should also take a look at the Vareo again despite the sl*gging it gets here. Streaker looks pretty but rather high on PY at 1162 which is even higher than the Solo at 1155. The Solution is very appealing though I have not seen one in the flesh. Phantom still loks rather a beast. Similar sail area to the Blaze but without the wings to help keep the power under control by getting out far enough. |
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Philsy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 344 |
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I felt the same about the Vision - just looked cheap. I ended up getting a
Laser 2000 after a short affair with a Xenon (also plastic). Don't dismiss the Vareo, I'm very seriously considering one for single- handed sailing. People who own them rate them highly. There seems to be a culture of sl*gging off boats on this forum, so you don't always get an unbiased opinion. ![]() |
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Matt Jackson ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962 |
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Nah, don't get a Contender they're rubbish. Edited by Matt Jackson |
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Laser 203001, Harrier (H+) 36
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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Sounds like the Vision has done it's job pretty well- got you hooked on sailing, got you a bit of experience, and got you a bit of knowledge so you at least know and understand a bit of what you're after. I'd agree that going for a "proper" single-hander is the best route- compromises rarely please. If you'll occasionally have a potential passenger, most clubs will have a couple of boats such as Wayfarers available to hire (some have more exciting boats as well). |
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getafix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143 |
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How about a Blaze? 82kg is ideal, OK are nice too but not as quick, Solo aren't quick either but you'll get excellent class racing, or if you want to go mega fast and have a decent sized bit of water to yacht about on, you won't go much quicker singlehanded than a Shadow or an A-class!
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Feeling sorry for vegans since it became the latest fad to claim you are one
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vscott ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Apr 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 181 |
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If possible - try before you buy!
Until you have been in a boat you are unlikely to really know if it will suit you. At your club ask if you can have a sail in as many boats as you can and you will have much better information on what suits you. And every owner will promote their own class ![]() |
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Mk IV Osprey 1314 Think Again
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Inland sea ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 19 Jul 07 Location: Rugby Online Status: Offline Posts: 290 |
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Many a thread on this all ready. As Rick says check your local club out and what classes are being sailed. You will probably enjoy racing boat on boat far more than on your own. You will also find most club members gladly offering help and advice on the same class of boat you chose. At your weight you have a really good range of boats open to you and my little personal plug would be the RS300 (Identical weight to our current national champion). Light responsive fast and real fun if a little challenging. It has often been said of the 300 that it is a boat you will find yourself sailing purely for fun and all ways coming off the water with a smile. Good luck with your choice. |
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endoscool ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 9 |
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Put a Streaker on your shortlist then book a test drive - room for a passenger, excellent club handicap racer that will not punish you when the going gets tough and also room for a small passenger. Look at review in current Y&Y. Your weight is not far off National champion see http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/classes/?s=42&c=59 - and that was in light winds too.
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robinft ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 18 Jun 04 Location: Thorpe Bay YC Online Status: Offline Posts: 252 |
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Most experienced sailors don't consider the likes of the RS Vision a serious boat. Manufacturers main market is the holiday companies and people that don't know any better. (Helmet now secure and awaiting incoming abuse.) Laser not a real boat? Try sailing it properly! If you have only sailed a Laser on holiday there is no comparision with a top spec GXD. I bought my first Laser in 1977 and apart from the rubbish sail (but that's a different story) it keeps getting better. I personally would not consider a two man boat for regular single handed sailing. What about a cat such as a Sprint 15 or Shadow? No space issues when sailing 2 up. As always your decision really depends on where you are going to be sailing. If you are a club member it's always a good idea to join an existing class rather than to do your own thing. |
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