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combat wombat 
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Joined: 16 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 345 |
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 Topic: What would you do?Posted: 12 May 06 at 10:44am |
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Don't even let you have carbon tiller extensions apparently... now thats harsh.
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B14 GBR 772
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Bruce Starbuck
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Posted: 12 May 06 at 10:22am |
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The Fireballs have a rule banning the use of carbon fibre in almost anything. Trouble with this is that a standard alloy spinnaker pole isn't stiff enough so they wrap kevlar around an alloy pole to beef it up and charge nearly £150 for a really heavy, terrible bit of engineering. A carbon one would be the same price but much better. It's one of those rules which is intended to save you money but actually doesn't, and has a detrimental effect on the boat. Come to think of it, they build parts of the hull from kevlar too. Before I rant too much, does anyone know the comparative price of kevlar vs. carbon, and specifically what the price difference would be to replace the kevlar cloth in a Fireball hull with carbon, and what the difference in performance would be? |
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Ellie
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Posted: 12 May 06 at 10:07am |
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oi! what are you saying! the clinker hull makes a merlin what it is! have u seen the MRX? its a completely different boat! yuk yuk yuk (compared to a merlin, but alright just to knock around wembely...very hard work tho, bit of a brute). anyway my change would be to take the 21Kg of lead out of our boat see if we can get her planning upwind ps sorry for getting defensive, i cant help it pps sorry for dragging up an old comment....i had to defend the MRs Edited by Ellie |
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timnoyce
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Posted: 12 May 06 at 9:41am |
 This is the only pic i have seen of the foiling 600. looks pretty farkin' cool though! |
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BEARFOOT DESIGN
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phantom871
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Joined: 12 Apr 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 86 |
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Posted: 12 May 06 at 8:47am |
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Two things
1 Remove the corners from the back of a laser to stop the the main sheet catching!
2 I would tie three buckets to the back of every phantom other than mine! Edited by phantom871 |
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If its bent pull harder
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49erGBR735HSC
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Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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Posted: 12 May 06 at 1:09am |
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Bar the thing I mentioned about the wing mountings on the 9er, which is a serious maintainence issue, everything I mentioned would make the boat nicer and easier to sail from my point of veiw. As it stands, the boat is awesome to sail and maybe knocking a T-foil on the back of the boat might take an element of skill away from it? |
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Chris 249
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Posted: 12 May 06 at 12:09am |
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Move the pivot hole for the Laser rudder, so the blade can go more upright and reduce the feeling of weather helm.
One very simple zero-cost (as far as I can see) change that would make life more pleasant for many thousands of sailors. |
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Villan
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Posted: 11 May 06 at 11:43pm |
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Put a small foil on the bow to keep it up?
edit: im surprised people havn't thought about making things easier / more comfortable to sail yet ... Like rounding the gunnels off or making the ends of their wings thicker so they are easier to trapeze from. Edited by Villan |
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Vareo - 149 "Secrets"
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combat wombat
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Posted: 11 May 06 at 11:33pm |
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18ft Skiff no.2 rig on the B14, twin traps off the racks...
You'll see me down the mine every bear away. |
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B14 GBR 772
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Isis
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Posted: 11 May 06 at 11:20pm |
Its being developed by Linton Jenkins of Fullforce Not seen any pics on the web, but I have seen a vid of it in action and it looks awesome, if a little out of control. The planned release date was april I beleive so unless theyve been set back too far Im sure you'll see more soon... |
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. and maybe make a new merlin more within my price range...free would be nice!
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