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    Posted: 03 May 06 at 9:07pm
we just ran a team racing weekend in fevas and i think weve got a few more people interested. the important thing was to make sure it wasnt serious!
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Originally posted by getafix

average  lap is a good thing for newbies - nothing worse than sailing round dead last while everyone sits there looking at your in resentment, or worse  shouting "retire" as you pass - I actually witnessed this once

I have had this happen!  At an open meeting at a club I wont be returning to...

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At Burghfield we run a very popular personal handicap pursuit series on Wednesday evenings in the Summer (as well as running other introduction to racing days).  The handicaps on the experienced can be swinging but it really really encourages the 'new to racing' to work at it - they then win or finish near the front and are seen grinning from ear to ear - It's fun for them, they work at it for the whole race to keep ahead -  and this is what will get them into more serious racing in time.  Each week a formula is applied to update the handicap based on results.   The more serious also get to try and work through the large mixed fleet - excellent practice for them as well.  As others have said already the secret is not to take it too seriously or have a go at the novice wobbling around in front of you. This series is also very social and good catering is provided resulting in a very crowded club house and bar.  Last week - first of the year with very iffy weather - 62 boats out and more expected this evening.

It's not magic - just make it fun and social.

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average  lap is a good thing for newbies - nothing worse than sailing round dead last while everyone sits there looking at your in resentment, or worse  shouting "retire" as you pass - I actually witnessed this once

... only prob for those of us with tidal waters to deal with is that you have to start and finish from the same spot!
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at Hawley we allow beginers to do one lap and average it out this makes it less intimidating as being lapped several times is a horrible prospect

also we've just introduced a start club racing thing (similar to the RYA  start racing program) for the junior sailors who have completed at least a stage 1 course where they have to be sufficently good at a skill to get it ticked off on their certificate but it's all done in a fun way with games and prizes so they hardly even notice they're racing. i think the eventual aim is to have a hawley junior topper squad

 

 

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At Scaling we have a very active Junior and newbie scene and having read this thread and had a think I believe it's to do with the racing program. We have casual racing on Saturday and Sunday morning and 3 races on Sunday afternoon which get progressively more intense. 1200 Novice race race - anyone can enter but realistically it's a fun race, 1400 Class race - 4 classes generally with less than 10-15 in each and 1600 ACH - all boats off one start.

Like heavy wind sailing it's easier to get the hang of it if it get steadily tougher rather than going straight out in a F6. I guess we have a large turnout already (a critical mass if you like) but it works well if you can get to that point.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Olly4088 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 06 at 10:15am

I think the buddy system works quite well.  It was used at a nationals that I went to a few years ago and it worked well cause all of the top boys/girls were very helpful and helped some of the lesser crews move up the fleet. You then sometimes get the problem that happened at the fireball nationals a few years back where the buddies were getting beaten by the people that they are trying to help.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 06 at 9:18am
Some things that might help

1. Encourage newcomers to sail one of your clubs "supported classes" - it means there's usually going to be other people out sailing the same boat and inevitably they can swap thoughts/tips after racing or just give your newbies someone to follow and observe for a while

2. Make sure newbies to racing do at least one stint a year in the assistant OOD chair - helps understand the mechanics of racing and how the flags, course setting and times work as well

3. Encourage the sort of environment the RYA Racing Charter is promoting - a hoard of shouting, barging and rule-bashing sailors isn't a welcoming pool to go swim in for the first time

4. Make sure your onshore facilities encourage everyone to stay behind after racing for a cup of tea or a pint, likewise if there's breaks in the racing on a given day - nothing like swinging the lead to encourage the free flow of ideas

5. If all else fails, issue magic potion to all newbies then laugh when "uptight boy"  in his laser and "shouting couple" in their Fireball are passed by newbies in Topaz Uno's
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