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    Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 5:51pm

Good idea but depends the conditions, reckon the 9er would have the edge in the lighter stuff due to longer waterline length. Between the 14 and 49er in other conditions, I reckon it would be more down to sailing ability than whether one of the boats were faster. The 12 though might "pull a blinder" and leave everything standing but common sence and a gut feeling I have, sort of makes me think otherwise

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we had it last week we got a grand total top speed of 10.2 knots and that was in over 30knots of wind!!!!!!!

I have to say i was brikking it

the worst boat i have ever sailed. but it will be the same for all of us.
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Originally posted by andy_cherub

ps - have you ever come close to 31.2 knots? HAHAHAHAHA

Can we close this now dude?

48 knots of wind in a 5000? (don't know what we were doing except hanging on!)  oh and with the kite up
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Originally posted by les5269

Originally posted by andy_cherub

ps - have you ever come close to 31.2 knots? HAHAHAHAHA

Can we close this now dude?

48 knots of wind in a 5000? (don't know what we were doing except hanging on!) oh and with the kite up

Yeah, but Les 5000s are more stable than cherubs.............lets forget the fact 5ks carry much more sail area........

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Originally posted by bovlike

We should put the 49er 12, cherub and i14 up against each other like the 700 and musto's did last year at the tide ride..... that stoped all the talk and sent the 700 sailers away with there tails between there legs



I would say that overall the 49er would win with a few supprises from the I14

The 12 would I think do well in the realy light stuff with the n1 rig up bit as the breaze builds and they start to step down in rig size they will loose out. They may pull it back when it is totaly screaming and they are on a tiny no 3 or 4 rig.

The cherub will be blown away up wind by the 14 and the 9er and will gradualy loose more distance downwind against them both. At the stage when they have the same sail area as the 12 they should hopefully be able to pace them.
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Originally posted by Chris Noble, who refers to one part of someone's anatomy in his signature - no, please, on one else tries to outdo him,

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 Out of curiosity, what's the second link in your sig, Chris? I've tried to view the picture (no comments please....) but it says "Sorry, but you do not have access to this picture."

Is it just a wind-up on your part, trying to see how many gullible girls (and maybe a few blokes too, ) want to check you RS out?

Or is it a comment on one of the photographers who provide regular pictures to fotoboat?? (j/k)



The way the website works means you cant link properly to it! Sorry
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Draycote Blast, 8-9th April 2006 - Unofficial Ramblings

Friday - The Day Before

Isis, Noycey, and myself turned up a day early to get masts erected, kites rigged, boats tuned etc. No chance of going on the water because Draycote SC was having a small child. Tried on the new '05 rules sail. Lookin' sweet! now just need a long enough boom!

Tents also rigged in the country park. Into Dunchurch for Dinner. Eating establishments seemed uber-expensive, so we blessed the chippy with our presence. Haddock was good, but chips and battered sausage were crap. They don't like you sitting down or asking for knives either!

then to the Dun Cow for some erious drinking! Pint of 'Old Hookey' tasted like wee. Met Iain C, and Mr and Mrs Simon Roberts (Cherub legend). Moved onto Bass Ale on Iain's suggestion, that's the badger.

Then back to the tent. Bloody cold, bloody uncomfortable, and a bloody storm. Could quite comfortably describe it as the worst night of my life!

Saturday - Chains broken, dogs everywhere

Wow, to say it was windy is an understatement. 38mph winds were recorded. And it was bloody freezing. Isis and I took the Strawb (Italian Bistro Mod.) out (pictures attached). We were going well until I went to hook on, and realised I wasn't wearing a harness. So came back to sure to get properly dressed. But then realised discretion would be the better part of valour, and bought the boat back onto land before something broke!

Mach 10 was reached by Will Lee and Rhys (New Zealand R-Class sailor), aboard the Spanish Inquisition (Pasta Frenzy mod.). Loved the wheelie guys!Officially send it! Stuberry and Dave Ching went rampant in Norwegian Blue (Italian Bistro Mod.). Water skiing was witnessed on not one, but two occasions. The gusts were officially psycho! Isis and Paul Croote looked like they were having a pretty harsh time aboard Cheese (Dog Mod.) (may even have been a full on pitch pole, LRN stylee!). But then they tamed the beast and Mach 10 was obtained. Tim and Rhys went for a blast in the Beer Monster (Italian Bistro Mod.). Looked like they were going well to the shore party. Maximum twin-ability! Then they disappeared from view:
"Ooo extreme wipeout"
"That's gotta hurt"
"I don't think that was a capsize"
"Looks like the rigs down"
Sadly they were right. Tim got a tow back with his mast in 3 pieces. Sorry dude, happens to the best of us. Atleast you were sending it!

In the evening we frequented the "Bombay Tandoori" in Rugby. 4 courses for seven quid. Value! Hottest Madra I've ever had though! Then we went to a club called Style. Apparently your allowed to take knives in, aslong as there slashing knives, not stabbing knives. Cheers Mr bouncer, your a ledge! Much hilarity insued with raspberry sambuca, Dave's dancing, and pogo bar stools. The camera was out, but hope those pictures don't make it onto the forum! Then all back to Iain C's for a much more comfortable night!

Sunday - The other extreme

Everyone woke up either very hung, or still peeved. Sainsbury's wasn't open to serve us breakfast, but happily Mary at Draycote was able to provide bacon and sausage butties. Just what we needed. Met the legend that is TT.

Atum Bomb hit the water for only the second time, driven by Will and abley crewed by Ben. Nice to see the kite up this time. The Squid (Squid Quo Pro) boys were going well, smoking upwind. You need to sort a bigger kite though!

Strawberry adopted Tim as her new pet, and took Stu along as well. Some twinability up and downwind. Savage capsize on the gybe, but sailing again in less than a minute. Good drills! Then the wind shifted by 90 degrees and died. Centreboard paddling home for most. Then got bored and cold.


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Beer Monster
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Originally posted by Granite

Originally posted by bovlike

We should put the 49er 12, cherub and i14 up against each other like the 700 and musto's did last year at the tide ride..... that stoped all the talk and sent the 700 sailers away with there tails between there legs



I would say that overall the 49er would win with a few supprises from the I14

The 12 would I think do well in the realy light stuff with the n1 rig up bit as the breaze builds and they start to step down in rig size they will loose out. They may pull it back when it is totaly screaming and they are on a tiny no 3 or 4 rig.

The cherub will be blown away up wind by the 14 and the 9er and will gradualy loose more distance downwind against them both. At the stage when they have the same sail area as the 12 they should hopefully be able to pace them.


I would of thought that with the 49er's waterline length it would leave the twelve standing in the light stuff even though it's got a huge rig. As it's got such a small waterline length
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Once it gets light enough not to reach full displacement speed, hull length won't matter, but sail area and wetted surface will. Mind you, once it gets that light, you'd probebly all be overtaken by a Mirror Dinghy and retire to the bar to discuss how fast you would have gone/went when no one was looking etc etc...
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