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    Posted: 05 Apr 06 at 3:03pm
I haste to mention that Pierre is NOT talking from experience..
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From my limited understanding of team racing, once you reach a certain standard, "last boat looses" doesn't work very well any more, as you will get races where no one will cross the finish line for fear of their team mate being shut out, and the skills are such that it can carry on all day that way. Seems more confusing than 1st scores 1 point, 2nd 2 points etc, and the points are added up at the end? Now the days of greens are gone, it seems pretty easy so long as the sails are very bright and different colours! The question would be, do the team racers want their sport to join the 5 ring circus and become totally professional?
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Team racing is part of the ISAF Worlds... I think the UK will be on the podium! Personnally if Team Racing was in the Olympics I would be trying for that spot!!! I think it would be good for the sport if TR was part of the games. My understanding is that the restriction is on the number of sailors, not the number of classes... So people could do fleet and team racing (like doing individual races and the relay). Although obviously some Olympic sailors would be the wrong size for freddies!!!
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team racing is fun to compete in. its also very tactical and alot about boat handling so non sailors wont be able to appreciate it to the full but it is still ver watchable. but you'd need to specify each teams sail colour before because otherwise teams might need the equivilant of away strips, adding to the expenses.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote damp_freddie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 06 at 1:32pm
I actually think it is a shame to go with the same designer.

What about a new strict OD boat built to olypmic request?

We had the Finn all those years ago for example , built more or less to request- true?
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Well, more or less....it was actually mainly designed for inter-Scandanavian competition. 
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i thought it was designed as a boat for some olympics or other from the lines of a scandinavian development class.
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Sort of; the Games were a consideration when the boats was chosen. In design terms, the Finn was very much like a cut-down Swedish C Class (development class) cruiser/racer canoe, with the pointy back cut off. If you look at Sarby's drawings, it was even originally trimmed down a long way by the bow so its waterline shape was very canoe-ish.

Like the Swedish canoes, the design competition called for a boat that could be used for cruising, with the skipper sleeping under a boom tent. Sarby was a hairdresser and designed the boat to be suitable for home building by amateurs like himself.  For many years, the boats used in the Olympics were  supplied by the  host country and few or no changes could be made.

I just mentioned those details, because the Finn sailors sometimes abuse the Laser because it was initially designed as a fun boat, and they say a real test of skills cannot be found in a SMOD. That's a funny attitude when the Finn (great boat) is actually a handyman hairdresser's cruising boat which was originally a SMOD at the Games!
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Originally posted by Chris 249

Sort of; the Games were a consideration when the boats was chosen. In design terms, the Finn was very much like a cut-down Swedish C Class (development class) cruiser/racer canoe, with the pointy back cut off. If you look at Sarby's drawings, it was even originally trimmed down a long way by the bow so its waterline shape was very canoe-ish.

Like the Swedish canoes, the design competition called for a boat that could be used for cruising, with the skipper sleeping under a boom tent. Sarby was a hairdresser and designed the boat to be suitable for home building by amateurs like himself.  For many years, the boats used in the Olympics were  supplied by the  host country and few or no changes could be made.

I just mentioned those details, because the Finn sailors sometimes abuse the Laser because it was initially designed as a fun boat, and they say a real test of skills cannot be found in a SMOD. That's a funny attitude when the Finn (great boat) is actually a handyman hairdresser's cruising boat which was originally a SMOD at the Games!


You are on heck of a good font of facts Chris.  You should get a job at Y&Y!
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