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    Posted: 04 Apr 06 at 9:26pm
Originally posted by laser47

i was just trying to say that it seems like people are genralising and making assumptions as to what women want (i.e tactical boat) . i'm not trying to say that all women wouldn't like a certian type of boat (picking on that aspect personally i'd go for somthing with a pretty equal mix of tactical and physical but that might just be my veiw). sorry if it came across wrong it just seemed like a pretty closed debate

Agree with youm there. Hopefully at the next review of olympic classes there will be a similar debate about the womens keelboat class to the one we've had here.
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Originally posted by Harry44981!

next review of olympic classes there will be a similar debate about the womens keelboat class


Won't be a very long one: there's no alternative.
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Won't be a very long one: there's no alternative.

 

Why? It isn't as though any olympic aspirant sails an old boat anyway, so what does it matter if a new class is chosen? It will be the same people sailing it as sail the Yngling now, but maybe they would have more fun?
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The Enterprise is a nice boat - but it is very much a British and ex-colonies class. At the recent worlds all boats but one came from GBR or the ex-colonies - Ireland, India, Pakistan, Siri Lanka, South Africa... and Belgium.

 

as for the Snipe Worlds - 12 countries including USA, Japan, Uruguay, Spain, Brazil, Norway, Argentine, Russia, Portugal, Bahamas, Italy, Denmark, France , Canada and Sweden... Oh! and the winning crew were all female...

 

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Well Kit stenhouse seems to handle the musto skiff in all weather just fine, yet no ones mentioned that....??  Maybe it should replace the laser radial as the womens singlehander?   And no doubt some of you are now going to accuse that idea as obsurd!!  But why??  so far a womens boat is seen as a boat for lightweights, yet surely if anyones good enough to be selected for the olympics then they're good enough to sail any boat, weight regarding?? 


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Getting back to the original point about new womens olympic boat I'm still liking the idea of an open cat class (fast, exciting and capable of being designed to avoid advantage of either excessive or lack-of bulk & muscle power)

I'm also still liking the idea of open keelboat fleet and match-racing, perhaps a rule saying that 5 person keelboat, min 2 crew should be women?

Lot's of girlfriends I've known and their friends were lost from an early passion for sailing by the "glamour" of other things when we were teenagers, an injection of excitment into the womens classes and also some 'aspriational' pics on TV wouldn't hurt, I also think that an Olympic event that pitted mixed teams against each other would be quite unique in the Olympic setting and provide good stories and experiences for the competitors involved.  Yes, I know you're not going to reverse the trend completely, but it might help!

Sailing worldwide has men & women sailing together, why not at the Olympics and why have a 2-wire speed machine for the women? it can't be a good thing for them to be drudging along in Ynglings while the boys buzz past in 49ers...
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Sailing is a diverse sport and I suppose it all depends on what the IOC want to test from the sailors.  Judging by their definition of High Performance, I don't have much confidence in the way Olympic sailing is being organised.  However...

If they want the most 'spectacular' class a twin wire skiff is probably the way to go.  If they want the fastest they should pick a cat.  If they want a tactical boat, then go for a kiteless hiker. If they want the most televisual then team racing is probably the way to go.

The problem with picking a twin wire skiff is that they are very rare outside of Australia and UK.  I would guess that there are more members of my club than women who have raced twin wire skiffs in the whole of Europe, Asia, Africa, N America and S America combined.  So its not very representative of the sport.

Anyway, how many people (especially non-sailors) will ever find sailing fun, or understandable, to watch on the TV?  As whole races get condensed down to 30 seconds of footage, it is impossible to understand what is going on.  But a short sharp team race, say 30 minutes long, could be shown in its entirety and would be easy to follow.
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2 boat team racing with crews in skimpy tight fitting swimsuits - nautical equivalent of beach volley (admit it - you don't watch the beach volley to study the amazing ball control and the tactics)!
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Now I simply KNOW that someone is going to mention Quick Release trapeze hook... These sailors... They always want to come first...

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Originally posted by Black no sugar

Now I simply KNOW that someone is going to mention Quick Release trapeze hook... These sailors... They always want to come first...



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