MK 4 OSPREY

Originally posted by turnturtle Originally posted by Guest#260 Originally posted by rogerd I think this demonstrates how harmful these forums can be. In the past this would have been discussed at membership level in relative privacy and then discussed at committee,now any one (who may or may not have any vested interest) can have their say without thinking or caring what the consequences might be. The Ospreys made a brave move forward which has happened in many of the older classes and worked. I hope they get this sorted but I don't think you can blame forums ... they are just a way for people to communicate; we live in a different world now and new media make news travel very fast ... but it's the same news. Rick I can only echo Rick's sentiments here- this forum has been nothing but positive for the class- I for one have had my eyes openned to it- it might not be the boat for me right now, but certainly one I may consider in the future. My positive feedback is down to this forum generating my initial interest followed up by a fantastically presented, well marketed and stunning looking display at the dinghy exhibition- I hope for the sake of the class and those who sail them, that any issues with the class builder can be resolved- it would be a real shame otherwise.

I wasnt blaming this forum as such only that the ability for everyone to have their say in such a quick way, sometimes without much reflection, can work to the detriment of these changes. The class now has to wait for the long slow process of committee meeting then feedback then more meetings before anything can be resolved.

The relevant questions were put and as I understand it the class association were waiting for a committee meeting and also to see how the boats fared on the water before making any replies. There are some who are, like myself,  not Osprey sailors who possibly should have left the shouting to the class association members.

Personally I hope this all settles down and possibly a seasons reflection may put a different perspective on the whole thing.

 

Originally posted by rogerd I think this demonstrates how harmful these forums can be. In the past this would have been discussed at membership level in relative privacy and then discussed at committee,now any one (who may or may not have any vested interest) can have their say without thinking or caring what the consequences might be. The Ospreys made a brave move forward which has happened in many of the older classes and worked.

I hope they get this sorted but I don't think you can blame forums ... they are just a way for people to communicate; we live in a different world now and new media make news travel very fast ... but it's the same news.

Rick

I think this demonstrates how harmful these forums can be. In the past this would have been discussed at membership level in relative privacy and then discussed at committee,now any one (who may or may not have any vested interest) can have their say without thinking or caring what the consequences might be. The Ospreys made a brave move forward which has happened in many of the older classes and worked.

I hope the Ospreys can move on with this and get Hartleys back on board. Yes there may be differences in the boats and yes it may give a minor advantage for a while BUT this bickering will just drive people away from a great and spectacular boat.

Eighteen new boats ordered in what many would consider an old and outdated class that is a great move forward in anyones book. After all a rising tide etc.

If you guys continue to tear your class apart you will end up as one of those interesting lost classes that have faded into memory.

There are plenty of examples of classes that have made changes within the spirit of the class rules.( wide bow Fireballs, Revolution Hornets ) and the classes have survived these changes. I hope the class can pull together on this and get over this. After all it is a great boat with a great history.

Good luck to you all.

 

Having met one of the Hartleys at Alton water at the recent Osprey Mk IV test day , I was very impressed by their products and the people involved with them. I'm fairly new to this sailing lark, and thus an Osprey is not the sort of thing appropriate to my current level of ability but it seems a great shame if the class does implode. I've watched Ken Carroll's Mk IV whilst it competed in Alton Water's Frostbite series, admittedly it was in expert hands but it did look great on the water. Where does the class go from here ? 

Whats going on ?  From what I've read, the builders have resigned, the class secretary has resigned, a MK IV has been sent back to the builders and the talk is that a MKIV does not measure without class rules dispensation.

http://www.ospreysailing.org.uk/index.php?option=com_joomlab oard&Itemid=13&func=view&id=108&catid=12

Shame, as the boat looks great.