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    Posted: 17 Mar 06 at 4:15pm

Basically, Granite has summed it up. However I'd choose the 5000 over an old 14 because its an SMOD and you don't have the further developed boats over-shadowing it within the class, if you have the ability in the 5k there's nothing to stop you winning the opens in an old boat. General running costs for the 49er can be blown out of proportion, we've had our boat since 2004 and only had to replace one mainsheet, two gnav arms and a block for one of the control lines through general wear and tear. Reckon that's well under £200. If you get a decent boat with good inventory of sails and spares they don't cost too much to keep running. Insurance is the only bad point, know of 3 49ers getting quoted around £500 ecah this season. If you are confident but air on the side of caution with the boat initially, it isn't too bad, basically be confident with your boat handling skills but don't jump in to the deep end and go out in big winds until you know what your doing. A lot of the boat handling skills can be picked up off Higher and Faster, had a really good crew step onto the boat with little experience of her before and was up to speed because he'd studied the manouveres on the DVD.

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yer, you've all made very valid ponits. we have organised a go in a cherub we hope for april, and we have already sailed an rs800 together, im not too sure about the 5000 and im pretty sure we wont be getting into one of them. does anyone know when the 29erX rigs will be available? i think we would prefer a one design to an old 14 basically because of the disadvantage we would have over the newer boats in the class and we dont hav the funds to upgrade to much. If we are lucky there might be a couple of 49ers at the kielder scottish skiff event in april so we will try and blag a ride if we can. i supose to make a proper decision we need to try all the possibilities.

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The 29erXX rig was planned to be released in March, best phoning Ovington Boats to find out. If you and your crew are 65kg each, the 49er might not be too bad an option, we sailed her with me weighing 70kg and a crew weighing 60kg but both of us were over 6ft which helped with our righting moment due to extra leverage. Sailing now with combined weight of 148 kg and the boat seems more comfortable but it can be sailed at 130kg. Main problem you'll have just now is there aren't many 49ers being sold for less than £5000 and that's before you insure it. Noble do the best policy for the boat though.......
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see this is the type of thinking i can get along with - a bit more positive lol. but yer, we are both 65 kg and 5'11" so by the end of this season we should both be roughly 6 foot and a couple of kg heavier. if my older bros are anything to go by, we can both expect to be 6'2"+ and 75kg before to long, admittedly the 'boat handling hump' of the 49er will be a big one to get over but i have the confidence that we could do it. It all just depends on what happens in the nest few months. thanks again.



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Anyone else seen the target handicap for the xx.  I saw 820 which is quicker than the rs800
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Originally posted by Strawberry


If peoople insist on putting cleats on mainsheets...


First thing I did on my Blaze...get rid of the jammer. Just get a decnt pair of gloves and use a powerball to build up grip and arm strength.

Much more controllable!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote carshalton fc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 12:48pm
yer we got rig of the cleat on the main on my 4k.  and just added a "phat" 76mm rachet works a treat  
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Mainsheet cleats are a disaster waiting to happen.
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We bent the jammer down slightly on the 5k so we'd still remain class legal with equipment and it was still there if we ever needed.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Prince Buster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 8:55pm
Mainsheet cleats are a bitch!!  The worst experience i've had with one was when i was sailing an ISO (which, incidently are pigs!) at my club and the crew forgot to hook on and swung out and......splosh - leaving me to capsize nice and fast with spinni up too cos i couldn't unjam the mainsheet from the frikkin cleat!
Then, not content with just chucking me out, the b@$tard sailed into Southend pier !   
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