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    Posted: 27 Mar 06 at 12:50pm

As no-one seems to have answered the question yet I thought I'd have a go:-

The action of hiking with bent legs effectively levers your knee joints apart which is what causes the damage and why having straighter legs is better.

Tapezing is a more natural action for your knees/legs because you are mostly just standing up but horizontal (with the wire even removing some of the weight) with the odd bit of flexing as you tack/move around the boat. The biggest danger is in getting your feet trapped in a wipeout and twisting something.

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Originally posted by Guest#260

Sounds like people need to be sailing a trapeze boat with a high boom and low sheets loads ... can you guess what it is yet?

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I would say they should sail a Blaze, the most comfortable boat I have ever had to hike in and it flies when it's windy (I was they only boat that stayed upright yesterday).
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Sounds like people need to be sailing a trapeze boat with a high boom and low sheets loads ... can you guess what it is yet?

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I agree with Jon.

Straight legged hiking makes a huge difference. If you mosey on over to the roostersailing website there is a good article on hiking technique. Since I started hiking that way my following day knee problems have just about gone. Plus changing class has helped. It is surprising how bad the hiking position is in some boats (and you don't realise until you sail something where the hiking position is much better).
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I've had tendonitis/rotator-cuff problems in both shoulders and related to sailing in different ways.

Right shoulder was never quite the same again after I catapulted into the mast when windsurfing using a harness and landed on my shoulder.  It hurt a lot at the time and for a couple of weeks after, but it has also caused recurrent long-time weakness.

I injured my left shoulder polishing a keelboat. A sailing-related injury if not sailing! I think the problem was that, in order to avoid constantly moving the ladder, I did a lot of the polishing at a stretch, which inflammed the shoulder joint. This took about 6 months to go away, which was tedious.

 

 

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Tennis Elbow should go within a few weeks. You need to strap it up all the time you use it. Squeeze the belly of the muscle then pull it over the outer arm and hold in place (PM if you are not sure how to do this). This take the strain completely off the affected tendon. Now go and see a good Physio fo two or three sessions... I had tennis Elbow after my op so badly I couldn't shake hands! I had one treatment, got it strapped up and carried on sailing everyday. Not sailing is definitely not the answer as you lose grip strength.

 

There is nothing curious about straight leg hiking strenghtening your muscles! This is how you are ment to hike. Not only is it fast but it protects the knee. Note: Straight leg means the muscles hamstring muscles are full lenght, it does not mean lock out he joints!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 06 at 10:13pm

Originally posted by Prince Buster

  And i've had the tennis elbow thing.  From my experience and other people i've spoken to it never really goes away completely and once you've got it it will keep coming back. 

I've had tennis elbow in both arms - caused by the loads in a split mainsheet and exercises to manage them. But I've had no symptoms for years since.

My answer - rest the elbow a few weeks at least, then start gentle stretching exercises, then finally re-start strengthening exercises+stretching. I suspect that if I'd stretched properly all along (incl after sailing) I'd never have had the problem. And, of course, replace the split main with a 2:1 ! (just as fast in my view - the absolute centrelining of the boom is of dubious benefit - feels powerful, but mostly adds side-force + leeway + induced drag)

Also needed a cartilage op. after twisting my knee on a high-floored boat (self-draining has a price). Subsequently sorted things out with a good regime of all-round (- important to include the sides) knee-strengthening exercises from a good (and they do vary) physiotherapist. Again, I suspect that if I'd done the exercises in the first place, I'd never have twisted my knee and needed an op. After initial a daily sessions, I do them just once a week now and feel pretty bomb-proof.

Curiously, when recovering from the op., straight leg hiking in a Laser actually seemed to help strengthen my muscles. What I'm sure does your knees no good is bent-knee hiking - you're levering the knee joints open against the ligaments...

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It hurts but differently
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Prince Buster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 06 at 9:36pm
Is that on your cat??
Does a trapzing boat help your knees or doesn't it?
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