Omega feedback

   In Tom's defence, I was in Plymouth that day and reckon it could have been one of the windier days of the winter, so possibly could have been gusting F9, probably the main reason the Omega went out in the place of the Cherubs. The times we have sailed the Omega, she hasn't seemed too bad, has picked up relatively well on the kite for the type of boat it is (not in the same league as the 4K), had no problems with sheet loads, although the spinlock cleat proved problematic on hoists, unlocking randomly and the boat seemed quite simply layed out. One of my gripes about teaching beginners on stratos's was that they seemed off putting to pupils learning to rig up the boat for the first time as the sheets are configured more a kin to a racing boat which confused learners. The Omega didn't seem to have this problem because the sheets were placed in obvious places....... kicker adjustments come straight from the kicker, cunningham from the cunningham etc.............

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49erGBR735HSC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote 49erGBR735HSC Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Omega feedback Posted: 14 Feb 06 at 7:42pm
	In Tom's defence, I was in Plymouth that day and reckon it could have been one of the windier days of the winter, so possibly could have been gusting F9, probably the main reason the Omega went out in the place of the Cherubs. The times we have sailed the Omega, she hasn't seemed too bad, has picked up relatively well on the kite for the type of boat it is (not in the same league as the 4K), had no problems with sheet loads, although the spinlock cleat proved problematic on hoists, unlocking randomly and the boat seemed quite simply layed out. One of my gripes about teaching beginners on stratos's was that they seemed off putting to pupils learning to rig up the boat for the first time as the sheets are configured more a kin to a racing boat which confused learners. The Omega didn't seem to have this problem because the sheets were placed in obvious places....... kicker adjustments come straight from the kicker, cunningham from the cunningham etc.............
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neilboys Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 28	Post Options Post Reply Quote neilboys Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 06 at 4:35pm
	Mmmm interesting..............possibly ! I sail/race all year in various boats but this one is for the purpose of cruising on the East Coast rivers, (I'm not looking to go racing in it....just have some enjoyable sailing with my young family) none of my boats sit in the boat park and are always sailed. Like the thought of somebody sailing a dinghy in a F9 (exageration or what !) and as stated above if you overload the rig on any boat it will go. The main thing I am interested in is how it performs for general sailing (F9 will send most blue water yachts heading for cover if they have any sense !) Anyway thanks everyone for your thoughts

carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 06 at 3:49pm
	yer i have to agree with matt mainly because the sort of people that will buy a omega will be the people that will leave it in the boat park and go out in it once a year.and will never sail in anything over an extreme f3 to be honist there isnt much point in the omega!! if u want a decent boat to sail once a year and wont loose to much money while it sits in the boat park go for a laser2000. lovely boats and can carry 3 adults at most. if i was you neilboys i would think about how much use the boat is going to get and how much money you want to loose. Edited by carshalton fc
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Matt Jackson Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 21 Sep 04 Location: Darlington Online Status: Offline Posts: 962	Post Options Post Reply Quote Matt Jackson Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 06 at 12:54pm
	A F6/7 (and certainly F9) are not the conditions to evaluate a boat like this. If you overload an already heavy boat is it any wonder the rig broke, jeez I've lost the rig in a Lark because we were trying to reach the water out after a capsize in F6 and that was with 2 (admittedly heavyish) of us on board! You could try being a little more helpful - or not say anything.
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BBSCFaithfull Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 06 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1251	Post Options Post Reply Quote BBSCFaithfull Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 06 at 10:02am
	Mr NeilBoys I do have experience in the Omega, Unfortunately!!! it was a Force 6/7 and there was 2 of us hiking. The boat was / had: a) Unresponsive at the helm b) Awful to hike from c) Way too Overpoewered for the hull shape and size d) The worst sail controls I think I had ever seen! e) Mainsheetloads bigger than anything i have sailed more than twice the loads of a 4k! f) A truly pathetic kite Im Sorry i wasnt more optimistic about the Omega but it is just a waste of space and the boat has no good points or upsides.! Now I hope this was more helpfull. Be warned if you buy one people will laugh at you and you will have the worst sailing you have ever had!
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tgruitt Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479	Post Options Post Reply Quote tgruitt Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 06 at 7:15pm
	i sailed it and the rig fell down, lesson, do not take omegas out in a F9, they cant take it, we had 4 lads, one trapezeing and the whole lot came down!
	Needs to sail more...

neilboys Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 28	Post Options Post Reply Quote neilboys Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 06 at 6:58pm
	BBCFC Faithful............ Not all that helpful...............crticism (constructive preferably) from sailors with experience is often the best help.....does'nt seem to be the case here !

BBSCFaithfull Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 06 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1251	Post Options Post Reply Quote BBSCFaithfull Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 06 at 6:00pm
	The omega is the biggest lump of sh*t ever to have sails put on it! Basic sail controls and a huge rig with big sheet loads and a pathetic kite means it is a complete waste of time!!
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neilboys Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 12 Jan 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 28	Post Options Post Reply Quote neilboys Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Feb 06 at 2:12pm
	Thanks again to all above.................Plenty to think about !

stuartblair Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 11 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2	Post Options Post Reply Quote stuartblair Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 11 Feb 06 at 11:09pm
	I've had my Omega since July 2004, and I've found it an absolute joy to sail. It's an awful lot lighter and more responsive than the Wayfarers I've sailed in the past. However, although you couldn't describe it as tippy, it's not as stable as a Wayfarer. That said, I've only capsized it once, and that was when there was only me in the boat with a full upwind sailplan. On that occasion, there was no problem in recovering it on my own due to the masthead bouancy. If you are going to go out in an Omega on your own in >F4 conditions, it's best to keep the roller reefing line to hand! With one or more crew to hang on the side, or put on the trapeze wire, you're able to make use of the full sailplan. The boat really takes on a totally different character when it's up on the plane. It always leaves me with a big smile. As far as build quality goes, I've had no problems. It was one of the driving factors in my choice of boat - I'm very bad with my hands and have a rather stressful job, so I liked the idea of owning a boat that was low maintenance and which would leave my weekends free for sailing rather than mending. In fact, so far the only breakage was when I put a large rent in the gennaker because I hadn't been consciencious enough in my taping of the metal fittings. It was easily repaired though. As I write, I'm looking out into my back garden where the frost is still clinging to the boat cover. Can't wait to get out on the water again once our dinghy park has been rolled for the year. Stuart Blair Omega 3256 (isdoo)