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    Posted: 03 Jan 06 at 12:00am
So basic answer is nothing that is commonly sailed today.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jan 06 at 7:14am
Think it's fairly inevitable that any boat of that type would drop pole kites. While there's a certain charm in the techniques in gybing with the sort of length of kite pole you need on a high performance boat (the 9ft pole length of Cherubs was short compared to Qs and 12s) even I wouldn't want to play that game regularly with the helmsman scrambling onto a wire.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote BBSCFaithfull Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jan 06 at 8:19pm
Yes spinaca poles do sound pretty lethal. Ive heard stories from and ex fireball sailor who said when it was about a force 6 the spinaca pole was under such load that when his wife unclipped it, it went straight into her face. Lucky she had glasses on!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tornado_ALIVE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 06 at 10:33am

12 footers were running 2 piece spin poles back then.  Had to assemble before hoisting, disassemble after dropping and hope they did not seperate during a gybe.

I raced on 16 skiffs some 13 years ago when they ran symetric kites.  Also owned a 15 foot skiff (VS) that was very simular to the 16s.

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16 foot shiff with 2 crew sort of on the wire

18 skiff as still raced today in the Brisbane River.  The 18s also adopted VERY large wings years before the asymetric was added

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The pitching 16 pic is immense!
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Often wondered about trying it on a 505. I think that would make a great twin wire symmetrical boat.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 5420 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Jan 06 at 4:15pm
iv heard of people thinking about it and i think as they try so hard to get the boats as light as pos they can not make the maast stomg enof to do it
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Back in the 70's there was a thing called a Ghost (I think) which was a large twin wire symmetric, but it never caught on as it was considered too extreme!
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Was the Ghost really twin wire? The little info I've found about the Ghost was that it was a big Cherub, like a one-design NZ Javelin, and like the Jav it had only one trap. Was the Ghost modified later to have a second string?




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