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    Posted: 16 Jan 06 at 8:23pm

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The 800 has lower sheet loads, less sail area and the benefit of having a chute for the kite instead of bags. Its also a much lighter boat and a bit faster too. I haven't sailed the boat myself but they look like sorted boats and always seem to perform well. They can be sailed with a lower weight range too.

What he said really.

Iv sailed a 5000 a fair few times, and as im fairly light, the transition from boat to rack seemed like a leap of faith. ....though for the price you can get them 2nd hand at the moment, I think they're great. Although there are some cheap 800's floating around.

Also if you're light, trying to pull a 5000 up a slipway after sailing, really isnt great.
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The 800 has lower sheet loads, less sail area and the benefit of having a chute for the kite instead of bags. Its also a much lighter boat and a bit faster too. I haven't sailed the boat myself but they look like sorted boats and always seem to perform well. They can be sailed with a lower weight range too.
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If we could find the money we would probably go for a rs800 but i dont think we will have enough.  From what I hear they are easier to sail and require less weight, anyone agree? 
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I would agree that if you've got a 5 tonner that getting down the gym has to be a top priority, but for off the water rather than on [grin]

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Plenty of time for both you and your crew to get down the gym and add 5kg each. Would be worth it, 5ks are great boats for the budget. Alternatively if you can't get your weight up, theres always the 4000 and RS800 to consider.
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I think our combined weight would be 125 kg but we're not thinking of getting anything untill probably next season.
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It might be possible to sail a 5000 at slightly less than 130kg, but the major problem would be righting her from capsize. The boat is a "heavy" boat to right and when we had to do it with 140kg on the tip of a board, it took ages. Another thing that would help on a 5000 would be to have a crew with reasonable upper body strength to help bagging a 33sqm kite.
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The equalisation charts go down to about 130kg, but the racks would be right out so you'd definitely need baby bars! As for skill level I'll let you know when I've figured out if I can sail mine 
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Probably 130kg, how much do you weigh?

 
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In that case what level of skill do you need to sail a L5000 (and whats the absulute minimum crew weight)
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