Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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Laser 140101 Tynemouth |
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Rossiter Pintail Mortagne sur Gironde, near Bordeaux |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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yellowhammer ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 270 |
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By popular demand I've put more photo's on the above link, taken from different angles. From just the single appearance at Rutland they're seriously considering it as their new asymmetric trainer. Jeff Vander had a similar response when he visited Burghfield. Build quality is the key. I'd love to see some good light-middle weight crews adopting the boat for some serious class racing! |
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Laser 3000 @ Leigh & Lowton SC
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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from a purely selfish point of view ... I hope Jeff's order book doesn't get too long! Looking at some of their phantoms, Vandercraft's build quality is spot on. Performance sailcraft's boats do mostly last forever, tis true - but mostly due to sheer weight of material methinks. |
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yellowhammer ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 270 |
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she'll definitely respond well to some love and attention the press test showed she was firm in all the right places |
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Laser 3000 @ Leigh & Lowton SC
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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i have sailed with a freind in his l3000 and i thought that it was a nightmare downwind with the kite. so much lee helm!!! upwind it wasnt that nice either because it was light and the crew couldnt get far enough forward. my other major nigle with this boat is that i couldnt reach anything apart from helm and mainsheet. the crew had to come in off the wire to do it and i imagine that would be a pain in a blow. also my freind seemed to think it pitchpoled too easily. i had a look at the v3000 at the boat show and it looked much better for control lines bit i think the rudders still too short for all the lee helm. anyone think the lee helm was solved if theyve sailed a v3000?
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m_liddell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 27 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 583 |
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are we all talking about the same boat here??? |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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im talking about the laser 3000. my freind has a habbit to exagerate though so maybe he was wrong.
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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Re-reading this thread, following trial sails and development ....... Lee helm problem massively reduced by a shorter pole and a shorted footed, longer luffed spinny hung from higher up the mast. Raking the mast back in a very cool way has also improved balance. Off the boom sheeting is a fine thing to have - but the builder is thinking about a boom mounted cleat system for single handing. For now, carefully placed stopper knots in the main sheet have to suffice during spinny launch & recovery! And no, you can't pitch-pole it This boat is now sorted, it's good. It really is a L3000 done proper. Mine is on order. And how nice to buy a boat built by a small UK builder to a design owned by the class association. |
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Strawberry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337 |
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Now there's a challenge if I've EVER heard one! That's what they said about the Dart 16, but I managed to put that A-over-T in Cardigan Bay. Congratulations to the class for turning a mediocre boat into one that seems very well sorted! And Nick, you deserve alot of credit for voting with your wallet! Edited by Strawberry |
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MRJP BUZZ 585 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1496 |
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isn't that kind of contradicting at one point it says you can't get forward enough then says it is prone to pitch poleing |
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