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    Posted: 08 Dec 05 at 5:08pm

Yes... but only a standard symetrical. The software for design is free athttp://sailcut.sourceforge.net/ and the materials athttp://www.sailrite.com/. cost about 70quid.

But that is only a spinny...... a main and jib, my next project is some 25 US dollars per metre and much more complex and critical.... in a sense your paying for their research. if it comes out well, I promise I'll put the offsets on the web for all to share, but i suspect a good sail will be a few cuts down the line. 
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Or the Phillipines... Making sails is (a) far less labour intensive than it used to be (lots of computer-controlled machines) and (b) has been to some extent (by the bigger lofts anyway) shipped out to places where labour is extremely cheap (otherwise they wouldn't have shipped out there in the first place).   Are these savings being passed on to the customer?  I guess if they were then all the smaller lofts would have gone out of business pretty pronto.

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Originally posted by MikeBz

Or the Phillipines... Making sails is (a) far less labour intensive than it used to be (lots of computer-controlled machines) and (b) has been to some extent (by the bigger lofts anyway) shipped out to places where labour is extremely cheap (otherwise they wouldn't have shipped out there in the first place).   Are these savings being passed on to the customer?  I guess if they were then all the smaller lofts would have gone out of business pretty pronto.

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I think there are three things to consider here;

1) The smaller lofts work with classes that the big boys are not interested in due to the volumes

2) The smaller lofts can offer a more personal service; e.g. tuning advice

3) I suspect they opperate off different business models

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for the bigger companys (such as hyde) the LCL (lowest cost location) is the key factor in terms of chosing a site to locate but for a smaller company that relys on customer relations the it is better to locate outside the LCL in a sub-optimal location because in sailing terms it is closer to the market of the product!
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hope that all made sense and didnt just go over your head!
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made perfect sense 
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Originally posted by hurricane

hope that all made sense and didnt just go over your head!

No. It makes a false distinction though. All companies depend on customer relations.

Look at Sobstad UK. Design and service in the UK. Manufacture in China. They certainly wouldn't say they don't depend on customer relations. They are attempting to have the best of both worlds - and quite possibly succeeding.
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ok well i suppose my basic A level geography hasnt coverd that yet roll on university and we will see wot happens!!

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I suspect it will take a little more the a UK uni to turn you in to the Business oracle that is S' Lloyd.
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