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    Posted: 08 Dec 05 at 3:36pm

The difference between getting a 10m square sail made in sexy smokey aramid compared to regular salt and vinegar dacron is a piddleing 40 quid..... yet the manufacturers sell the materials at a massive double price difference.

Is there something fishy going on with my material supplier or are the sail makers beefing up prices on the most regular lines??

Does any one have any personnal views on, what constitutes, the second most expensive cost to being competitive??

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I'd say the most expensive thing. In most classes you can bring an old boat up to speed, but an old suit of sails?

As for the question, maybe the kevlar sail is quicker to make, so the difference in price is made smaller, even though the material is more expensive? I'm not at all surprised to hear that the material itself is twice the price to buy a small piece.

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Surely material cost is a small part of the overall price.  Labour makes up the majority.....
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Originally posted by Ian29937

Surely material cost is a small part of the overall price.  Labour makes up the majority.....

Indeed, you would expect so. You would also expect that the labour cost would be reduced the more units your produce, so why (assuming all sailmakers turn a profit) are they all the same price accross manufacturers?

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Originally posted by Ian29937

Surely material cost is a small part of the overall price.  Labour makes up the majority.....

Indeed, you would expect so. You would also expect that the labour cost would be reduced the more units your produce, so why (assuming all sailmakers turn a profit) are they all the same price accross manufacturers?

I would expect not a great deal of savings in labour on the bulk production of sails; that is why many lofts have gone off to the far east ...

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Are there any labour costs in Vietnam?
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i was talking to some one at P&B and they where telling me that it take 1 day to make a 505 kite they get the materal for nofing almost but it takes so long to make a sail depending what its for
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Originally posted by 5420

i was talking to some one at P&B and they where telling me that it take 1 day to make a 505 kite they get the materal for nofing almost but it takes so long to make a sail depending what its for

I think they are having you on..... I made a spinny in a day and I had to draft and cut then whole thing by hand.....and Id never done it before.

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Originally posted by Bumble

Originally posted by 5420

i was talking to some one at P&B and they where telling me that it take 1 day to make a 505 kite they get the materal for nofing almost but it takes so long to make a sail depending what its for

I think they are having you on..... I made a spinny in a day and I had to draft and cut then whole thing by hand.....and Id never done it before.

Yeah; but was it any good?

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