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    Posted: 02 Dec 05 at 5:33pm
I'll second that DaveT, I was thinking the same thing about contenders.
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JimC, why can't you have a gust responsive rig without it being fully battened?

Seams odd to me given that modern Merlin Rocket rigs seam to work very effectively in gusty conditions.

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Originally posted by boatshed

Sounds like a major makeover to me.  This would be the perfect opportunity to go for double trapeze.  The class allows three crew, so, why not put two on the wire.  Even better, have all three trapezing - that would be an impressive sight.

Have they included can holder in the new deck design as I know those Osprey boys like a beer - I did an event a few years back in  Andy Barkers boat sailing with Vyv Townend; I think I was fleet lightweight in more than one respect.

I could hardly walk in the morning let alone sail ...

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Originally posted by boatshed

  This would be the perfect opportunity to go for double trapeze.  The class allows three crew, so, why not put two on the wire.  Even better, have all three trapezing - that would be an impressive sight.

let me reformulate this proposition - let's change the rules of one of the class that allows normal adults to compete to to create yet another class for dwarves! There are too many classes for lightweight sailors.

Dinghy sailing is losing out to keelboat and big boat sailing because there are few classes left that can be sailed by two adult men! Sailing has failed to adapt to the increasing size of adults, instead crews appear to be getting lighter and lighter. Let's encourage more classes that cater for 180-200+ kg crews

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I think that about sums it up nicely Gordon.   Ospreys carry weight well so grown ups as well as smaller people can sail them on a competitive basis.



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Originally posted by boatshed

  This would be the perfect opportunity to go for double trapeze.  The class allows three crew, so, why not put two on the wire.  Even better, have all three trapezing - that would be an impressive sight.

let me reformulate this proposition - let's change the rules of one of the class that allows normal adults to compete to to create yet another class for dwarves! There are too many classes for lightweight sailors.

Dinghy sailing is losing out to keelboat and big boat sailing because there are few classes left that can be sailed by two adult men! Sailing has failed to adapt to the increasing size of adults, instead crews appear to be getting lighter and lighter. Let's encourage more classes that cater for 180-200+ kg crews

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Sounds like a major makeover to me.  This would be the perfect opportunity to go for double trapeze.  The class allows three crew, so, why not put two on the wire.  Even better, have all three trapezing - that would be an impressive sight.
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by morph

Selden has been trialled and has proved to meet the requirements of a modern responsive rig.


Really, you mean you've gone fully battened? (Cause you can't have a modern style gust response rig without) Seems rather a drastic thing to do to the Osprey, I thoughtitwas rather stylish as it was, if not my sort of thing.


Ummm don't think so. Responsive means something a bit different to us larger chaps.


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Originally posted by morph

Selden has been trialled and has proved to meet the requirements of a modern responsive rig.


Really, you mean you've gone fully battened? (Cause you can't have a modern style gust response rig without) Seems rather a drastic thing to do to the Osprey, I thoughtitwas rather stylish as it was, if not my sort of thing.
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The Osprey hasn't had a GRP/FRP builder for 12 years. The hull shape has not changed but the deck layout has been re-vamped to make it easier to produce in FRP. They won't outclass the Mk3's or even a well-sailed Mk2. The word 'fly' was merely a play on words referring to the Osprey bird itself which had disappeared from these shores until re-introduced quite recently. Like the bird, the boat was in danger of extinction, the new FRP boats will be some £5000 cheaper than a new wood one which currently costs around £14000 and is beyond the pockets of most people.  
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