Youth classes

   The reason more weight is needed in the laser is to maintain waterline length and imerse the hull so your moment pivots around the maximum width of the hull - same as the Finn. I feel stupid saying this out to an Olympic coach.

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Bumble Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 12 Nov 05 Location: Taiwan Online Status: Offline Posts: 302	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bumble Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Youth classes Posted: 26 Nov 05 at 3:16pm
	The reason more weight is needed in the laser is to maintain waterline length and imerse the hull so your moment pivots around the maximum width of the hull - same as the Finn. I feel stupid saying this out to an Olympic coach.

Bumble Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 12 Nov 05 Location: Taiwan Online Status: Offline Posts: 302	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bumble Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 05 at 3:13pm
	75kilos isn't a very average weight for the women of the world.

Jon Emmett Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jon Emmett Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 05 at 3:12pm
	I do not understand... Why is the Radial unsuitable as a class for Women?
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Bumble Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 12 Nov 05 Location: Taiwan Online Status: Offline Posts: 302	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bumble Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 05 at 3:10pm
	True enough...... I know its nothing to do with this thread but I think your comment about the radials really highlights how unsuitable a class it is for the womens Olympic class.

Jon Emmett Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jon Emmett Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 05 at 2:00pm
	When you are heavy you can take more power or foot more easily upwind, especially useful in short chop. The Laser is relatively heavy so a few KGs will not make much difference to the overall weight and hence acceleration but will be a big difference to overall leverage. In the UK the Radial Nationals has nearly always been won by someone on the heavy side and NEVER won by someone on the light side! Hence the basis for my comment. Edited by Jon Emmett
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Bumble Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 12 Nov 05 Location: Taiwan Online Status: Offline Posts: 302	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bumble Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 26 Nov 05 at 5:01am
	Is that supposed to be heavy? I thought 75kg was the ideal weight for radial. Besides, I think your wrong...... once the wind gets up, being over weight is just as big a disadvantage as being under weight. The boat doesn't accelerate through the gusts and the chop stops it every time. I think Ben would be the first to remind you how hard he needed to work at keeping the weight down to stay competitive in the Lasers.

Jon Emmett Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 988	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jon Emmett Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 05 at 7:13pm
	Who says you cannot be one pound over weight? Usually the weight range tends to vary with the optimum weight being similiar to the average weight! In boats like Lasers you do not want to be underweight as you will be far more disadvantaged in the windy stuff than you are advantaged in the light. Talking of Ben he was 75KGs when he won the Radial Worlds...
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Bumble Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 12 Nov 05 Location: Taiwan Online Status: Offline Posts: 302	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bumble Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 25 Nov 05 at 9:30am
	Sailing is like Bruce's price is right...... you can be plenty under but not one pound over. The concept of being under weight for a class is always over stated, so long as you are not masses under - the reason is not cos more weight = more righting/sail carrying ability, the ratio of force on the sail to ability to drive weight of boat is not proportional, but because you might not achieve full waterline length (the key factor in dispacement sailing). From my experience, you get too big for a topper when you get too tall, before you get too heavy. Rather than worry about being the next Ben Ainslie of the youth classes consider what you enjoy, most, about the sport...... then aim to do as much of it a possible.... and note: good 50kilo crews are like gold dust anywhere in the UK. Edited by Bumble

Harry44981! Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 736	Post Options Post Reply Quote Harry44981! Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 05 at 4:08pm
	I'd say at 50 kilo's you're on the light side for competitive topper racing. 55-65 kilos seems like the best weight

Skiffman Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 27 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 291	Post Options Post Reply Quote Skiffman Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Nov 05 at 10:07am
	Or get a 60+ kilo monkey and go and sail 29ers? Its the youth isaf boat in 2007 and 2008, so your a good age for it. Theres helms lighter than you sailing and the girl teams are about 105 kilos all up and there not that slow. Just and option
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