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By popular demand I've put more photo's on the above link, taken from different angles. From just the single appearance at Rutland they're seriously considering it as their new asymmetric trainer. Jeff Vander had a similar response when he visited Burghfield. Build quality is the key. I'd love to see some good light-middle weight crews adopting the boat for some serious class racing!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote NickA Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Nov 05 at 6:14pm

from a purely selfish point of view ... I hope Jeff's order book doesn't get too long!

Looking at some of their phantoms, Vandercraft's build quality is spot on.   

Performance sailcraft's boats do mostly last forever, tis true  - but mostly due to sheer weight of material methinks. 

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she'll definitely respond well to some love and attention

the press test showed she was firm in all the right places

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i have sailed with a freind in his l3000 and i thought that it was a nightmare downwind with the kite. so much lee helm!!! upwind it wasnt that nice either because it was light and the crew couldnt get far enough forward. my other major nigle with this boat is that i couldnt reach anything apart from helm and mainsheet. the crew had to come in off the wire to do it and i imagine that would be a pain in a blow. also my freind seemed to think it pitchpoled too easily. i had a look at the v3000 at the boat show and it looked much better for control lines bit i think the rudders still too short for all the lee helm. anyone think the lee helm was solved if theyve sailed a v3000?
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Originally posted by mike ellis

my freind seemed to think it pitchpoled too easily.

are we all talking about the same boat here???

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Post Options Post Options   Quote mike ellis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 05 at 6:20pm
im talking about the laser 3000. my freind has a habbit to exagerate though so maybe he was wrong.
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Re-reading this thread, following trial sails and development .......

Lee helm problem massively reduced by a shorter pole and a shorted footed, longer luffed spinny hung from higher up the mast.  Raking the mast back in a very cool way has also improved balance.

Off the boom sheeting is a fine thing to have - but the builder is thinking about a  boom mounted cleat system for single handing.  For now, carefully placed stopper knots in the main sheet have to suffice during spinny launch & recovery!

And no, you can't pitch-pole it  

This boat is now sorted, it's good.  It really is a L3000 done proper.  Mine is on order.  And how nice to buy a boat built by a small UK builder to a design owned by the class association.

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Originally posted by NickA

And no, you can't pitch-pole it  

Now there's a challenge if I've EVER heard one!

That's what they said about the Dart 16, but I managed to put that A-over-T in Cardigan Bay.

Congratulations to the class for turning a mediocre boat into one that seems very well sorted! And Nick, you deserve alot of credit for voting with your wallet!



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Post Options Post Options   Quote MRJP BUZZ 585 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Jun 06 at 1:28pm

Originally posted by mike ellis

i have sailed with a freind in his l3000 and i thought that it was a nightmare downwind with the kite. so much lee helm!!! upwind it wasnt that nice either because it was light and the crew couldnt get far enough forward. my other major nigle with this boat is that i couldnt reach anything apart from helm and mainsheet. the crew had to come in off the wire to do it and i imagine that would be a pain in a blow. also my freind seemed to think it pitchpoled too easily. i had a look at the v3000 at the boat show and it looked much better for control lines bit i think the rudders still too short for all the lee helm. anyone think the lee helm was solved if theyve sailed a v3000?

isn't that kind of contradicting at one point it says you can't get forward enough then says it is prone to pitch poleing

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