Crazy Ideas!

   it's very like how you would do grp but you need to use posh techniques like vacum bagging because to get the best out of it you need to have as little resin in it as possable (only use epoxy) that is why they invented pre-impregnated cf cloth how you get that to set when you want it to I don't know, I think it needs keeping in the freezer to stop it going off?

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Peter Rhodes Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 24 Apr 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 171	Post Options Post Reply Quote Peter Rhodes Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Crazy Ideas! Posted: 09 Jul 05 at 10:39am
	it's very like how you would do grp but you need to use posh techniques like vacum bagging because to get the best out of it you need to have as little resin in it as possable (only use epoxy) that is why they invented pre-impregnated cf cloth how you get that to set when you want it to I don't know, I think it needs keeping in the freezer to stop it going off?

TheSeaFalcon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 04 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 345	Post Options Post Reply Quote TheSeaFalcon Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 05 at 2:43pm
	Blah, rubbish, long word, blah! I didn't catch any of that sorry, Peter (I'm not takin the mick honest! ), but what are the pros and cons of a tin or a carbon mast/ boom e.t.c??! (And in english please, if you don't mind )!!
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Wave Rider Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 27 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 909	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wave Rider Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 05 at 4:32pm
	Carbon gives better gust response and stuff but i doubt we would need it quite yet !!
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Ginger_69 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 04 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 481	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ginger_69 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 05 at 5:08pm
	no not yet i think we just need t get a boat and kit it out for what we want (for a as little money as pos)
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Wave Rider Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 27 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 909	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wave Rider Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 05 at 5:45pm
	Yes ur right mr Ed !! It would be especially good if we get a very cheap cherub like that one because then we can spend the little money we have left on making it better e.g. better mast, by the looks of it better sails if thats possible !!!
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Ginger_69 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 04 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 481	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ginger_69 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 05 at 5:51pm
	does any one know any site that i could look at for parts for a chrub or gd site with second hand cherub stuff on would we be able to use any things of a fireball because we have one but we wil prob have to sell it or make use of parts onit (composite hull)
	Chew valley lake s c Topper(RED)-29412 I14 1209 lightning-168 Whaam (cherub) Atum bom (cherub)old crew (the 1 in the youtube vids) Will be arup skiff crew aka marmite

Wave Rider Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 27 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 909	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wave Rider Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 05 at 6:51pm
	Wow ! That sounds a great idea Ed but to be honest i doubt your mum will let you sell the Fireball will she? Also were you still thinking that me and you would pay half each (maybe ellie aswell but dunno if shes intrested)?
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timnoyce Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote timnoyce Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 05 at 6:59pm
	carbon is really easy to use. u just need the cloth and the resin. I was a complete novice to carbon in march but i have since built a snout, lengthened my kite pole, built kick bars etc so its not too hard to use. It's easy to produce working parts, but hard to make highly efficient, lightweight parts but i'm sure you'll agree that getting on the water is at the top of the list rather than having a boat that weighs exactly 50kg! As far as looking for old cherub spares goes, your best bet is to post on the cherub mailing list asking for specific things and i'm sure that people will say if they have anything suitable.
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Wave Rider Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 27 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 909	Post Options Post Reply Quote Wave Rider Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 05 at 7:03pm
	Ok cheers mate, is carbon cloth and resin expensive? and if we were converting from symmetric to asymmetric, would a effective bowsprit be very hard to make?
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andy_cherub Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 768	Post Options Post Reply Quote andy_cherub Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 09 Jul 05 at 7:32pm
	Bowsprit - just use part of a windsurfer mast and put one layer of 200g twill carbon cloth on. On my 1st cherub I had the bottom section, and my 2nd had the top. Now on the scorp im using the bottom again! Personal preference in bend-e-ness!! As for tin / carbon, carbons better, lighter, gust response ie the tip bends rather than heeling the boat. But you can still twin wire on a tin mast! Tin boom, carbons only better as its lighter.
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