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    Posted: 29 May 05 at 9:38pm
Smaller boats can definately be a lot of fun. Even though most of the time I sail a Laser 4000 these days, I still love taking my Laser 2 out for a blast every so often, especially when it's blowing old boots.

The L2 is super lightweight and responsive and is absolutley fabulous when 3-sail reaching. It definatley has that go-kart like quality.

The L2 embodies many of the qualities which I think make a great boat - it's light, it's responsive, it's low maintenance, it's quick to rig and it's also surprisingly challenging to sail.

Smaller boats like the Laser and L2 also respond better to body kinetics than larger boats.

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Hi m_liddell, it sounds like you need to change club not class.  You wouldn't find much of what you find unpleasant at clubs like Bough Beech or Wilsonian.

As for the comment about kite surfing and boards - well I can umderstand the comment and you really should try and master those sports but for me going upwind is the most demanding and hence rewarding sailing you can do.  Hence I sail a Laser4000 - fast upwind - and faster still downwind so I can quickly get back to leeward to go upwind all over again.

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Sounds like you should come Cherubbing.... we're the 'Surf Culture of the sailing world.

Does that mean at opens, the locals give the visitors a surfer-style welcome and beat them up?

 

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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

If you look at the bigger picture of sailing, all dinghies are small boats. Are dinghies more fun than keelboats? You might give a different answer at 20 and 50.

I don't understand why anyone who "just wants to go fast"  sails dinghies. Cats, windsurfers or kite-boards would be the way to go for that. Dinghies seem a bit pointless if you don't race them and you won't really be "joining a class" unless you race.

 

On the same kind of note you could say the same thing about sports boats, why sail a sports boat when you can sail a faster dinghy or skiff? Totally disagree with that point of veiw though because everyone enjoys the sport in their own way and we all sail boats which are suited to what we can get out of own enjoyment, hence the reason I only ocasionally sail keelboats and feel at home within a dinghy or skiff.

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The fastest I've ever been is about 550Knots - in a 747.  I wouildn't go out of my way to do it every weekend.
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I've sailed both dinghies and sportsboats, more the latter recently. Almost everybody I know who sails sportsboats has also sailed dinghies: it would be pretty intimidating to start your helming career in something that can do as much expensive damage as quickly as a keelboat in a big fleet can, and also have to take responsibility for a crew of several people, not just yourself or one other. Attractions of sportsboats: really the ability to spend the day on the water in something approaching comfort while also having an exciting sail, at least once its windy. I'll admit it's partially an age thing, and in my 20s blasting around on a short board was more my idea of fun.

I wouldn't sail either dinghies or sportsboats just for fun though. Both are race machines: both have better alternatives at either end of the spectrum if you just want a good time on the water (cats/sailboards/kiteboards and cruisers).

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I have to agree with James Bell, small responsive boats are great fun. I sail a 4000 which often overtakes waves downwind - so it feels a bit like beating, all crash and bash.  I used to sail Scorpions and downwind they go slower than the waves so require picking up surfs and they are light enough to jerk upright, bear away and surf down the waves.  Tremendous fun and a race winner if you get it right.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pro wannabe Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 05 at 9:59pm
where did you get an int 14 for £800, tell me now NOW!
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Youve just got to look around a bit, i got mine for a grand, in sound condition and with a few moddifications up to top spec!!

Any one in need of quality carbon fibre work (tillers etc) at decent prices!

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http://www.i14.org/forsale/index.php

Here - look at the UK boats, penultimates a couple of Ovi Benedict 4's for under 1000 pounds...

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