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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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Oh dear, not much agreement here. I still reckon you get your bum as far out as possible and your body more uprightish as Stefan suggests. That way you are more locked into the boat and when you hit rough water you stay with the boat and put a lot less strain on the back. You can also lean out a bit more for short periods when necessary. Don't ever let you back go concave - you can imagine the forces when you hit a wave. The Laser does require a more straight legged hike since otherwise your bum is in the water due to low freeboard. Incidentally do you know that you can shorten your effective toe strap length by crossing your legs at the ankles to give a more upright stance for reaches. The forecast is for light winds on Sunday - so you'll be able to practice the roll tacks. |
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maxim ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 127 |
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thats what the rooster people say...
Straight legged good, bent leg bad. (reminds me of a book...) |
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sailor.jon ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 02 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 361 |
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so dumbing that down abit to my level, bent leg hiking = greater forces on ur knees, the smaller the angle when ben legging = larger forces still
meaning straight leged is the way to go? this correct? |
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ed490 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 17 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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From the rooster sailing site: "Bent leg hiking causes large pressure on the kneecap i.e. Research has shown that when the knee is fully straight the load placed on the patella is minimal. However if the knee is bent 30 degrees twice the body weight is exerted on the joint and at 60 degrees the load exceeds ten times the body weight" |
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Peter Rhodes ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Apr 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 171 |
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I put my Knees on on the gunwale legs bent slightly and back lent back as required and straighten my legs if I still need any more leverage is this going to result in any health problems certainly most comfy in the mirror
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Bum as far outboard as you can bear and trunk more or less vertical from the waist up is the best technique. Bum on the boat and body semi-horizontal (other than temporarily) knackers your back and also gives you less view of incoming gusts. Better to have hurting legs than a hurt back. |
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andy_cherub ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 768 |
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I know what you mean! Like the Star sailors! having the legs running down the side of the boat!! Id say - give up, hiking hurts!! get a twin trapeze boat or a B14! A nice gentle 'grandads' boat! hehe no offence B14 folk, my brother has one - long standing joke!!!
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maxim ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 127 |
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well the further out you manage to extend your body,
the greater the turning moment, and the more effective. But it's really tiring keeping yourself there for long... ![]() themselves(?) are just doing it momentarily - to get a bit of extra speed - or reacting to a gust... |
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headfry ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Jul 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 359 |
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"Sorry" maybe I did not paint the right picture of my hiking question..
![]() Some seem to sit on the side of the boat with 'bums' almost in the water, legs bent, looking like a 'rounded' ball on the side of the boat Others seem to lay much flatter , extending upper body out over the water . Oh dear, I fear this is no better than my last poor atempt to describe what I mean... help someone...please, do you know what I am trying to say...................? But a huge thanks for all the views given ![]() |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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On the hiking Q. I sail a Laser most of the time (aside from when I am
allowed to play in the 'ball). You have to straight leg hike really. I
do find that the sports neoprene knee supports are great (especially
the ones with the 'hole' over the kneecap to hold it in place).
I have poor knees and they did suffer before I started hiking 'properly' in my Laser and wearing the knee supports.. The choice is easy really.. However I have to say when I sailed a 400 I could not straight leg hike no matter how long the straps were (same in the Scorp...but I do have long legs). Give me a trapeze any day (and a symetric kite too......) Paul |
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