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Jamie 
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 Topic: HikingPosted: 26 May 05 at 9:24am |
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[QUOTE=Stefan Lloyd]
Always use a good hiking posture – bent legs and convex back. {QUOTE] Sound like they want you to have the attractive hunch in later life as well. They maybe right I suppose, but it just doesn't look, sound or feel like a healthy hiking position to me. The best solution of course is to buy a trapeze harness, and sail a boat with less hiking involved. |
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Stefan Lloyd
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Posted: 26 May 05 at 6:46am |
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Always use a good hiking posture – bent legs and convex back. From http://www.optimist.co.za/national_regatta_preparation.htm talking about hiking benches. I don't think you can take Laser sailors' preference for straight-legged and apply it to every boat. I'm also not certain straight-legged is even physically possible on an RS400. I've done a lot of Merlin sailing, which is a similar design, and the straps would have to be miles up off the floor to allow straight-legged.
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redback
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Posted: 25 May 05 at 11:45pm |
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Straight Leg Hiking. There is a danger with straight leg hiking and that is there is a tendency to roll the body forward which means the knees can't bend and that makes hiking easier. I'm sure this is what buggered my knees when I used to sail the Laser. I don't think you can do it in the 400 - so you're safe. Just get your bum out as far as pos and lean back as long as you can. Poping the Top Batten. Only a problem in light winds, I presume. Roll the tack. Let the boat heel to leeward, by moving inboard. Let the tiller pull away from you and the boat will turn up into the wind. Stay where you are until the boat is heeling over on top of you. Stand up, turn around and sit down on the new windward side. Pull the boat upright and sheet in at the same time and the battens should pop. It takes practice to get this right in a 2 man boat since you have to synchronise your movements whereas beginers tend to fight each other's movements and the boat doesn't heel. |
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Phil eltringham
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Posted: 25 May 05 at 5:07pm |
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The reason for the top batten not popping can also be as a result of a lack of leech tension, especailly a problem in light winds, going downwind. To solve this pull on a little kicker, this tightens the leech so there is something for the batten to work against so it can pop, then resease the kicker tension after it has gone. this means that you do not have to roll the boat as vilently in light winds which can be counter productive. All you have to rememebr is to release the kicker again after the manoeuver. Also rememebr the batten is adjustable, many people never change their batten tensions, it can make a significant difference in performance if you get it right/wrong for the conditions. Sailor girl, I'd love to go to Oz for the B14 worlds, problem is the trip is gonna cost about 3 grand per boat, and thats money I dont have at the moment. So unless I get a great job/win the lottery/big sponsorship deal I'll just be doing the domestic circuit this year. The sad thing is I'm getting really quick, I've never been able to sail a boat as fast as I can get the B14 to go. Edited by Phil eltringham |
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KnightMare
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Posted: 25 May 05 at 4:56pm |
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Yeh do you have one of those jybing strap things, on the boom (dont knwo bout 400s but all the 200 have them) try leaning the to leeward and then when u pull it bk up u give a jerk on the strap and it pops the batten. Also on the omega to pop the top batten we had to pull downwards on the boom slightly to help pop the batten. Hope this helps. Straight leg hiking thought id just mention that again |
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sailor girl
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Posted: 25 May 05 at 4:42pm |
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PHIL... are u going to Australia in january for the B14 worlds?
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JimC
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Posted: 25 May 05 at 3:35pm |
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In the Ch***b, where we don't have halyards my usual is to round up onto a beam reach upwind of where I want to end up, put the boat hove too and pull the foils up. Boat then drifts in sideways. If I'm not too sure about the depth I slip over the windward side well out with my arms wrapped round the shroud, and when the toes hit the bottom...
One technique is a quick jerk on the mainsheet just as the battens/boom are going across. Combined with a good roll tack it works well when you get the knack. Its all in the timing! Edited by JimC |
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Phil eltringham
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Posted: 25 May 05 at 3:05pm |
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Gotta be straight leg if you want to be able to walk properly later in life. Granted the 400 is not exactly conducive to it, but you can change the length of the straps. Better still, get a B14, you have to straight leg like then (not that I'm biased or anything).
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Jamie
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Posted: 25 May 05 at 2:56pm |
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If you value your knees in any way straight leg it. Bent leg just puts silly amounts of strain on parts of your body you are likley to need later in life.
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headfry
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Posted: 25 May 05 at 2:51pm |
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Thanks folks!
Calum_Reid............ We are Lovin' it  Thanks!We are starting off in F2-4's max at the moment. The RS 400 was a bit of a bold step for us 'novices' but the boat is very kind to us and as we were looking for a type that would thrill us for a while to come, I feel, a good choice was made. We have had help from club and class members as well as you kind folks on the forum, thank you!  As it's been F5's at our club of late sadly not much time on the water  but our time will come!Need to practice taking the main down on the water, as we had one very fast arrival at the concrete slip when the wind picked up to a F5!! Nobody hurt, and boat undammaged. It was a little hairy though. We are finding that in light winds it's difficult to 'pop' the top batten....any ideas? Sorry to drivel on, only, I do get excited with the 400!  |
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