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    Posted: 23 May 05 at 2:40pm

i dont think a cleat on the boom would work on a 29er! 

yer the 29er x definatly wouldnt be a single hander unless u were quite big and are very good at multi tasking!!  lol

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Encouraging news there - especially as 2nd hand 29ers cost less than laser's new Vago and look so much more cool.

Single handing a Laser 3k, I've found the main doesn't do much with the kite powered up, so can pretty much be cleated around a close reach position and forgot about.  Oops, no cleat on a 29er - but someone was suggesting a boom mounted cleat?  Goer or not?

Also, how do you tack / gybe with a double extension?  Drop it, run, hope and pick up again? Or what? I'm used to taking mine with me.

Presumably the 29erX won't be single handable!!!! Unless you're Mr J Bethwaite that is.
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PS

Forgot to add, I'm thiry five  so the twenty niner is not just for the Youth market

Looknig forward to seeing the 29erX in action though.
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 I sail a 29er singlehanded, which can be very exciting at the best of times. I weigh 11 stone (70KG) and apart from tearing my hands to pieces trying to control kite and main simultaneously it is fabulous fun. Though I'm not always competitive in the local club racing-- who cares when you can have that much fun!-- I can sail it reasonbaly up to the borderline of about force 4 but beyond that you just have to spend too much time luffing the main to get anywhere. I've only sailed it on lakes so far where the wind is particularly gusty and I reckon in more stable winds I could sail up to a higher wind strength.

What I will say, you'll have a fabulous time provided you can move around a boat quickly  and it never stops me from grinning, and if you want to get seriously competitve, get a crew!

PS get double tiller extensions fitted (1.7m long) when single handing it otherwise you can't reach the tiller from the wire!)
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Let us all know how you get on with that 29er - especially single handed.

Here in the UK the 29er is the youth development skiff - training teenagers up to cope with the much faster and more difficult (and more exciting, I guess) 49er.  You don't find many adults sailing them and if you're over 21 there's not many people to race against.  But for blasting fun, they're a scream.  Very wobbly at sub-planing speeds and extremely wobbly down wind without the kite up - but once you get past the kite and planing barrier it should get better.  Old style dingies just disappear behind you.

Still less than sure I could single hand one though.  Still on the (slower, duller) Laser 3k and Buzz track.

Single handing a B14 ??? did someone really suggest that?  Lovely boat though (if you're not a trapeze buff) and cheap 2nd hand too.

Good luck & hope the water's warm in the mid west !!!!!!! 

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Give Ron a call;

http://www.mustoskiff.com/dealer-details/usa-and-canada.htm

He has used boats as well as new.

 

 
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Mazzas, Hi,

Saddly I cant not help with the technical side of your choices, all I can say is.....

Go with your gut feeling, if you like the idea of the 29er, go for it...... so the worst thing that can happen is-   i'ts not what you thought and you end up selling her,,  but at least you tried it!   You should love the boat you sail, perhaps more so if you are sailing single handed as it's just you and your boat, and lots of time will be spent together through good and bad. Much better if you like your boat!! 


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Nice one...I'm sure you won't regret it.
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Blobby -

Mostly (exclusively, initially) sailing with crew.  Thanks for the link; very interesting reading.

With your words of encourragement, I've closed all of the browser tabs that I had open to I14 websites and sent off an email to the seller of the 29er committing to the purchase.

Besides... with no active skiff classes in my area, I might as well sail whatever I like.  Thanks for the push!
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I would say go for the 29er - it was very entertaining single handed.  What you will need to do to make life simpler is to get a cleat platform attached to the boom so you can cleat the main.  If you look at www.single-handedskiffs.com you can find a neat design for one of these...(That site has some good advice for boat handling etc.)

Also need to fit twin tiller extensions to helm from the wire.

Not quite clear if you will be mainly sailing solo or with a crew?
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