Future Olympic Classes?

   yer i know what you mean cos all the rs range hold there value very well! 

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carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Future Olympic Classes? Posted: 17 Apr 05 at 9:59pm
	yer i know what you mean cos all the rs range hold there value very well!
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5420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 622	Post Options Post Reply Quote 5420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 11:33am
	yer how much dose it cost to mack the boats it can not be more than 1000 but we have to pay 5000 that means they can make about 4000 profit on evary boat they sell

NeilP Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 23 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 271	Post Options Post Reply Quote NeilP Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 3:35pm
	Let's live in the real world here, 5420. Yes, if you had the moulds and the skill, you could build a boat, and it would probably cost you around 1K-2K by the time you'd bought a rig, sails etc. BUT if you had to pay your wages while you did it, cost of workshop space, tax, rates etc etc, do you really think you'd have change from £5,000?? Not to mention the money the likes of Laser, Topper RS pour into marketing, setting up race series, finance deals, supporting used values with trade-in deals and all the other stuff. If you think you could wear all that and still produce a good quality product for £5k, I suggest you set up as a boatbuilder immediately!! Good boats cost money. A new FD is an expensive bit of kit, but it will give you at least 15 years of potentially Worlds-winning performance. Enquiries were made earlier this year about an FD built from glass and Polyester instead of the current expensive materials, and it would have made around £400 difference to the price! The vast majority of the cost of a boat is in the skilled labour to build the thing. If you want a new boat, you just have to live with the facts. Better than trying to live on what the average boatbuilder makes in profit!!! Neil

carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 3:41pm
	yer but if company's didnt make loads of profit they wounld do the job!!
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NeilP Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 23 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 271	Post Options Post Reply Quote NeilP Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 3:51pm
	So what's wrong with making a living? If there weren't companies and businesses out there building boats, what would you sail? I'll say it again: If you think you could build a good quality boat for less than £2000 on the water, go to it! If these businesses don't make money, they'll all go bust, and then you'll all whinge that you can't get spares for your SMOD.

carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 4:01pm
	i wasnt saying that there was anything wrong with erning a living i was just saying that the boat builders can charge what ever they want for the boats they build ect.
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49erGBR735HSC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote 49erGBR735HSC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 4:17pm
	Have to agree with Neil, boat-builders have to make a reasonable living, and after all, we are getting quality products. If your not happy with new boat prices, buy second-hand, nothing in this world comes for free. There are cheap classes in all aspects of sailing. The running and development of Marine based companies cost a fair bit of money, and what would you prefer, having to pay alittle extra for a well engineered boat, or getting something on the cheap which is primative or gives up after one season. Anyway back to the point, - The Musto Performance Skiff should be selected as the next Olympic class. Its a well designed boat, good international circuit, strong UK fleets, and has no compramises built into it, which could be said about some of her rivals....
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5420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 622	Post Options Post Reply Quote 5420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 9:45pm
	i dont think the rs700 has any compramises built in to it

hurricane Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1047	Post Options Post Reply Quote hurricane Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 10:46pm
	if boat companys make so much how come they keep going bust?? ie topper and laser
	lifes to short to sail slow boats! RIP Olympic Tornado 1976-2007

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 Apr 05 at 9:17am
	There are plenty of classes where you are allowed to home build, if you want to spend less, but, as was said earlier, don't even begin to work out what it has cost in time. Most of the problems with build quality on SMODS comes from the fact that they are cutting down on cost to compete with other SMODS, so they cannot charge what they feel like. They also have to take into account the expense of failed projects.