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    Posted: 15 Apr 05 at 3:07pm
the mps could have a storm sail that you can use when it gets windy i know there are some classis that do this alredy but i don;t think the mps dose
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Originally posted by bigwave dave

Is this something that MPS are going to consider?  It would certainly fill a gap in the market for a high performance single hander for women and smaller guys. 

It certainly would and I'd be interested but will it happen soon or even at all? Can anyone from the class let us know if it's even being considered? In the meantime what about the Vortex - now with the asymmetric so pretty quick offwind but manageable and stable for most lighter men. ladies and/or non 'superman'  types

If ISAF asked the class to develop a smaller sailed version for women then I am sure it's somthing that could be done but at present the number of women looking for that type of boat is pretty small and without the backing of an ISAF project coudn't really be justified by the market.

BTW this is my personal opinion and not that of the class association or the builder.

The boat as it stands has a wide competitive weight range and Kit Stenhouse does pretty well with the standard set up usually beating most of the men!!!

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the reason that not many people buy boats like the mps or rs700 is they are so exppensive i know a good 2HAND rs700 is about £5000 which is a lot foe teangers and studants and theas are the  kind of people that would buy them i am 15th i could sail one and i would love to but i can not afford one so we are stuck in laser atleast we have the 29er which is cheap

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If ISAF asked the class to develop a smaller sailed version for women then I am sure it's somthing that could be done but at present the number of women looking for that type of boat is pretty small and without the backing of an ISAF project coudn't really be justified by the market.[/QUOTE]

I disagree I do think there could be a market for a trapeze single hander for women, juniors or lighter men. The only way to find out if there is a real market is for someone to launch and market such a class.

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most small people and women think that boats like the mps are to hard because the sheat lodas are to hight ect but they als think that they have the skill to sail them people need to jump in at the deep end and get one they arnt as hard as people think and people can alwase learn

but that dose not chang that they are to much money

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Post Options Post Options   Quote bigwavedave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 05 at 9:42am

But it is a fact of life that we can't have everything we want.  I would like a newer boat.  I used to have one but had to sell it to pay the tax man.  I would like a new van, but can't afford it, my wife wants a new kitchen (she will probably get that),

High quality goods, whatever they are, cost.  The MPS is a high quality item, as is a new Devoti Finn and many other dinghys.  They are new about the same cost as a small family car.

You mention too much money, so what do you think they should cost?

Sailing is not the cheapest of sports, but it is a lot cheaper than say flying or racing cars.

Cost is a relative thing.  Sometimes you just have to be happy with your lot. At the risk of comming over all parental, when you have finished your studies and earning an income your views may change.  But remember that it is not only teenagers and students who cannot afford everything they want.  The more money you have the bigger the toys get.

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I'd second that and also like to mention that there is a lot to learn in sailing which can only be learnt in slower boats.  If you jump in at the deep end you'll probably trash the lot and you certainly won't be any good at racing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 5420 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Apr 05 at 7:09pm
but thats the point they cost the price  of a small failay car and you need a car but you do not need a boat to get to work in the morning so why shood they cost as much they are a hobby not an a adsenchal unless you are absested like me with sailing
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bigwavedave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Apr 05 at 7:51am

So  how much do you think they should cost?  How do you suggest suggest building cheaper boats?  Would you accept inferior quality boats because they are cheaper?

I too am obsessed with sailing by the way.

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Boats cost money; good boats hold money so it's a cash flow issue really.

I brought my first MPS for £5000; sold it 18 months later for £4900. Then brough a new one.

The key is finding a quality product that will last and has strong class interest

Too many new boats have followed a boom & bust cycle ... we all know which one they are ...

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