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    Posted: 05 Mar 08 at 10:22pm

Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by gary145

why isnt easier better?


You have a sailboat, not a motor boat. Why do you need to ask?

just curious about what people look for in their boat, and how so many designs and types at the show have their followers. Some like things just the way they are and some like to experiment.

Motor boats arn't easy are they? engines and stuff, easier with a sail surely


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXwvosfV6aY

My final digression.... FDs, Cadiz 1992...

Back to the boat show chaps...
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Well said! Maybe we will see the upwind/downwind balance redressed one day...

Anyway, what's all this about trying boats at Datchet? Have I missed something?
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Upwind sailing has been turned into something that is tolerated until you get to the downhill ride with all the crashing and burning and falling in. Most of the recent developments in dinghy sailing have erred on that side of performance (which is fair enough I suppose, it is fun, I won't argue with that), but unfortunately the sight of a boat knifing it's way to windward with little regard for any waves in it's path such as an FD (I refer you to the bit of Jims website about racing a Cherub on the same course as the FDs) is now rarely seen. For the true high performance development boats I am sure self tackers make sense in terms of boat handling, but it pales in comparison to the sheer size of the FD Genoa (150% isn't it) and the effort involved in pulling the thing in.... I don't see hurdles being lowered because it's too much effort to jump over them, you aren't allowed to launch a javelin with a catapult, why would you want to remove all the physical endeavour from sailing?
I don't know if that even made sense......
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Originally posted by gary145

why isnt easier better?


You have a sailboat, not a motor boat. Why do you need to ask?
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Originally posted by NeilP

You have only to say the word, Luke. Where in the country are you? You're welcome to come and sail with me sometime, or if that's not practical I can find someone nearer you.

Self-tacking jibs are the spawn of Beelzebub. Just remember, easier is not always better or more fun!

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You have only to say the word, Luke. Where in the country are you? You're welcome to come and sail with me sometime, or if that's not practical I can find someone nearer you.

Self-tacking jibs are the spawn of Beelzebub. Just remember, easier is not always better or more fun!
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I think it was the first year of the carbonly-enmastulated FD's... Someday i'll have a go in one... or have one... None of this self tacking jib nonsense....
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Apparently I have enough of a clue not to go out and buy an underdeveloped, halfbaked piece of marketing muppetry and then complain endlessly about it before changing it for another underdeveloped, halfbaked piece of marketing muppetry.

Not so light-hearted when the abuse is directed at you, are you? Even when it's meant as "inter-class banter".

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Originally posted by Merlinboy

lol GRF you are a ray of sunshine to my cloudy day!

More like a lump of particularly polluted slush dripping down the back of your neck. Oh for a kill file.

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