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    Posted: 31 Mar 23 at 11:55am
Davidyacht...
Your comment "I don't get why the animosity toward Y&Y and the forum" is spot on! Whatever the situation over with the paper magazine (now all but swallowed up by Sailing Today) the Y&Y site works well to reflect not only the wider international scene which people follow from the site in their tens of thousands (the traffic stats for the AC, Vendee and other headline events make this very clear)  but it is also the best coverage of the domestic scene. There's two points here - those classes that send in either naff reports or no report at all can hardly point the finger at the website and say that we're not reflecting what is happening around our clubs. Secondly, the old ways of doing reports, with "Smith takes Jones up the beat and loses it to Blogs along the reach" just doesn't cut it any longer - even in the virtual world you can see the eyes glazing over.
So actually Davidyacht, I don't get it either! There's very little of the celebrity endorsement being presented,  but those adverts that do feature pay the way not only for the site, but for the better quality content. The Times and Telegraph have both changed to paid access for most of their content, as dear old Rupert Murdoch said, if you want independent journalists then somehow they have to be paid for!

This is very dear to my own thinking. Be it with the history of dinghy development articles or the 'Wise Men' series the website provides a platform for a degree of 'depth of detail' in the articles that you wouldn't get elsewhere, as seen recently when what might otherwise have been a passing single paragraph obituary on Alec Stone become a fully-fledged piece with multiple pictures. If you don't want read in depth about Hornets, cat history (a multi-parter there) more on the radical minds behind dinghy development and the wider challenges that our sport has faced in the past - and how that relates to the future, then fine, no one is forcing you to. But the feedback says that there are far more people out there that DO want not just the hot topics of the day, but the thought provoking, detailed pieces so I guess their numbers will carry the day!
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Do different, can't recall you ever coming across negative or antagonistic
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 23 at 10:10am
Apollogies to all if animosity was conveyed; my feelings are more inclined towards sadness and disappointment. I'm definitely a live and let live sort of bloke. It's only that a space to share common interests when the season, weather or other commitments prohibit actual participation in "doing sailing stuff".
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I don’t get why the animosity toward Y&Y and the forum.  Just accept that times move on, our sport has an ageing demographic and probably the best we can do is make the most of the time that we have to make the most of the sport we enjoy.  Don’t understand why anyone needs to be hostile.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Mar 23 at 9:27am
Since the OP I've occasioned to look at the Y&Y'ing Facebook page. That is as far as I can see a complete waste of data space. As Prue Leith would say on BakeOff "not worth the calories".
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 23 at 6:22pm
Sussex lad, I believe  'figures', lacking your 'insight' handicaps my opinion, however, please ignore my post and apologies for disturbing you.
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A few years ago I was banned from a forum for pointing out the failure of a piece of expensive professional gear to perform as it should and, with several other users, nagging the manufacturer to fix the problem (it was a design fault causing it to drain it's LiIon battery in a few days when, supposedly, switched off). The forum was one run by the manufacturer of said equipment and they took exception to people politely asking for answers and a proper fix. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sussex Lad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Mar 23 at 8:56am
Originally posted by 423zero

Decline appears to directly link to iGRF refusing to post, due to being censored. My opinion from statistical analysis, shows the amount of influence he had, not saying he didn't need censoring on somethings.


If you believe that then the demise hasn't come a moment too soon. Your understanding of what has happened on here is close to zero Zero.

Personally I'm not keen on the modern social media format but one real benefit of the FB groups is the grassroots feel. Organised and administered by keen, ordinary sailors who do not claim to be experts, unpretentious, less elitist......Fingers crossed they stay that way.

regarding forums: Establishment organisations with commercial interest and institutionalised mindsets seem to be in decline thank goodness. 




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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dakota Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Mar 23 at 4:37pm
Not really a surprise is it . LOL

Luckily for my blood pressure most of the ‘ normal suspects’ have been blocked by me on fb. So I don’t get to see those things. Sometimes Mrs Dakota will let me have a look at the ‘fun’ stuff if she thinks I will find it funny. Like the D-zero self bailer one  Smile

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Just had a look at The Pin End on Facebook. 

Seems it will suffer the same problems that occurred here. 
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