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    Posted: 16 Aug 22 at 7:01pm
In general, boat owners do not 'call the Lifeboat' because they have engine failure. They (prudently) inform the coastguard of their problem (that's probably a good thing because the coasty is probably getting calls from passers by already), the coastguard chooses to task the RNLI. AIUI, the RNLI are not complaining about being called out, they would rather attend 10 breakdowns than have one breakdown turn into a life-threatening incident. Of course, we'd all like people to maintain their engines properly, carry enough fuel and look out for pot markers etc. But before mocking too many 'casualties' maybe some of us have got away with our poor planning (so far) and some of us don't get out much.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Aug 22 at 8:53am
Pot crazy where I am. 

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I believe that a lot of “engine failures” are due to boats entangling with poorly marked fishing gear, in the old days pots were marked with flags, now they are located by GPS
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Post Options Post Options   Quote The Q Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Aug 22 at 6:36am
it's often not the RNLI But the press..
The Hemsby inshore rescue crew (independant) appeared at my club to rescue someone that had fallen off a hire boat..
2 fire engines , one fire truck, one fire chiefs car, one coastguard 4x4, + the lifeboat crew..
by the time they got a boat launched he  had already been got aboard..
At that point on the river (only 100ft wide) you can swim to the bank and walk up one of many slipways...

The local paper reported it as a huge incident, with stern warnings about drinking and boating..

I spoke to the boat crew he had come off, none had been drinking.. it was 09:00 ish when he tripped on a cleat and fell off.. The boat behind panicked and called out the cavalry.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Aug 22 at 6:22am
Yep, point taken regarding their publicity machine … kind of why I reconciled with the knowledge that any future donation would be in the event of an actual incident, direct to local collections team of said crew, rather than a direct debit to to the marketing and PR department
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Is inflation ...........................? Well how can it not?  Diesel £10.00 a gallon in old money.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Aug 22 at 6:04am
I know RNLI crews and they're pretty down to earth but some of the RNLI publicity machine is OTT. I recall watching a TV "Saving Lives at Sea" where a pair of sailors had an RS400 on it's side sorting out a breakage. Despite insisting they were fine the crew insisted one of the sailors leave their boat and swim over to the ILB (presumably they were wary of prop fouling on loose lines , fair). The ILB persuaded the sailors to take a tow back in while there was a dramatic voice over of the hazards of the tow to the ILB. Err no, a dinghy being towed is at bigger risk, especially with non dinghy familiar RNLI crews, which is why no dinghy crew knowing anything would ever allow themselves to be towed with a line made fast to their dinghy. I do carry a tow line but would ever take a turn and hold it for release if needed; I refuse to comply with some water regulation authorities whose rules require a fixed painter.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Aug 22 at 4:51am
Also a big difference between the RNLI who man the boats and the beach Nazis on patrol in places like Cornwall … I cancelled my my lifelong RNLI membership after a particularly officious incident on Fistral Beach years ago, diverted the money into a children’s hospice instead
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Originally posted by The Q

Paddleboarding warning issued after 100 rescues in 48 hours on one stretch of Welsh coast (msn.com)

What qualifies as needing rescue? Imminent chance of death or just avoiding a long and embarrassing walk/taxi back to where you started? I'm happy to be an Offshore member, but my impression is that the RNLI media team have decided anyone who so much talks to a lifeboat is a 'survivor' who's been 'rescued'.  Confused

How many (tens of) thousands were out at that time?

If the same number of novice dinghy sailors were out, how much would the numbers have differed?

What happened during the dinghy boom? Seems unlikely that with all those home built boats and novice sailors that there were not 'growing pains'?

Perhaps most importantly - have they beaten sailing's previous claim to fame? Last time I looked at the numbers the biggest cause of RNLI call-outs was yachties with engine failure.  Embarrassed




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Originally posted by 423zero

Perhaps their lack of fitness/age infirmity gives them cause to extend their hobby by carrying loads of safety kit? I personally can get in the kayak in all weather conditions, but when going on a cruise I take radio and phone.


Good on you 423, but my experience of the sea kayak world is that the majority of people can't roll or self-rescue consistently, if at all. While I never had any interest in owning a sit-in, rolling itself always seemed an interesting skill to learn, and after paying for 3 lessons and quickly found I could do it in a range of boats with little trouble. 

This made me all the more curious about the many club members who proudly owned an 'expedition' boat and every safety nik-nak under the sun, but appeared after years of winter pool sessions to still be unable to roll except in perfectly calm conditions. Of course these were often the same people who would paddle up to SUPs and SOTs to berate them about their lack of safety equipment...the true spirit of sea kayaking.  LOL




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