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    Posted: 09 Aug 22 at 4:17pm
Originally posted by RB.

So, according to the "Something so right" article on the front page, the answer is simple, we just need everyone to spend £25k on a Merlin and do events like Salcombe Week. Come to that, Cowes Week is doing ok too. Sailing coming across as elitist and out of touch? Surely not!
There is a good reason why families are spending a few hundred quid on Paddleboards to use on their local piece of water (for less than the the cost of just getting to Salcombe) rather than buying dinghies, joining Clubs, buying sailing gear, paying for insurance etc. So, so many are struggling to keep up with the cost of living and its all about to get a lot, lot worse (apart for many in their 50's, 60's and 70's who we know make up the vast majority of  dinghy sailors). I'm afraid that 'fiddling whilst Rome burns' springs to mind when reading what may appear to be a rather tone deaf article like this about how we can 'save' dinghy sailing. 

Is it about to get worse?

At the height of the fuel prices a trip to Devon/Cornwall with the boat was £30 more expensive than before (Midlands based). It's a drop in the ocean compared with the rest of the spend on the week away. I'm certainly not saying that its good, or healthy for the sport (And classes with too many events will see reduced/selective/weather induced turnouts - the various winter series' attendance will be interesting this year) but needs to be kept in perspective.

Sailing is still as expensive as you want it to be. Be that at club or championship level, the vast majority of the boats at championships in most classes are mainly club raced. Can't afford a house? camp for the week. If you want to do these things enough you find a way.
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Would be interesting to hear people’s views on North West Norfolk Week, like Salcombe Regatta it is aimed as a holiday plus sailing, rather than a championships which is sailing plus holiday.

North West Norfolk Week has the option for day entries which is very popular. 8 days of sailing across 7 or so venues, 1 or 2 races a day early morning or late afternoon/evening so very family friendly, in a lovely part of the world.

Fleet starts for any fleet that has more than 5 entries. Wasn’t as popular this year but perhaps it wasn’t marketed very well?
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Only 10 dinghy entries for Falmouth Week this year....   
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I did merlin week. Crewed in a borrowed boat, which was actually pretty decent, but also reasonably old. Not sure how much it would have cost, but nowhere near £25k. 

Got lucky with accommodation, which was relatively cheap too and the whole family, including dog came for the week...plus some of the in laws for a few days.

Salcombe can be expensive, but no more so than other UK seaside villages. And the beaches are free. 

Unfortunately the dates don't work for me next year, but I am seriously considering getting an older merlin just to do this event for the next few years whilst the family is young. 

I think saying merlin week is popular because it appeals to posh people with money is maybe stereotyping and neglects some lessons that the article tries to bring out and would be applicable to many classes, no matter how much people are spending on the boats. 

For me, the format of the event meant that it added to, rather than compromised a family holiday and as a result I have done 6 more days sailing this year than I would otherwise have done. So win win. 





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Winning Merlin at both this years Salcombe Week and Nationals was bought for less than £10k, 2nd hand. Choose a Merlin wisely and you get a bargain. Make sure everything works as it should do and reduce the amount of bull sh.t on the boat to zero. New set of sails helps of course occasionally. Plus it helps to be a bloody good sailor both helm and crew.
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Originally posted by RB.

So, according to the "Something so right" article on the front page, the answer is simple, we just need everyone to spend £25k on a Merlin and do events like Salcombe Week. Come to that, Cowes Week is doing ok too. Sailing coming across as elitist and out of touch? Surely not!
There is a good reason why families are spending a few hundred quid on Paddleboards to use on their local piece of water (for less than the the cost of just getting to Salcombe) rather than buying dinghies, joining Clubs, buying sailing gear, paying for insurance etc. So, so many are struggling to keep up with the cost of living and its all about to get a lot, lot worse (apart for many in their 50's, 60's and 70's who we know make up the vast majority of  dinghy sailors). I'm afraid that 'fiddling whilst Rome burns' springs to mind when reading what may appear to be a rather tone deaf article like this about how we can 'save' dinghy sailing. 
Maybe we have to accept that relative to the vast population our sport is elitist ... however there are ways to sail away from home on a budget, as I post I am competing in Salcombe Yacht Club Regatta, you could turn up in a recon Laser, Ent, N12, Lark, RS400 or RS200 or any other class and have a great week, there was discounted entry for students and three campsites nearby.  
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Originally posted by Grumpycat

Do many championships last a week these days ? There does seem to be more of a trend  towards shorter champs . Understandable I suppose with venue costs rising and people becoming more time poor .
Still an old stick like me finds it a shame . 

Problem with shorter championships is that there is less point driving a long way, a lot of accommodation is 7 nights, there is more of a chance of losing a %age of the racing due to no wing or excessive wind, it pushes RO's into running short races on windward leeward formats
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Originally posted by Do Different

.........maybe not so much fun for a week David.  Smile

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I will not struggle during the crisis, doesn't mean that I don't care for those who will, stopping support for sailing and industries supported by it, or, those directly employed by clubs, won't help anyone.

Edited by 423zero - 09 Aug 22 at 10:05am
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So, according to the "Something so right" article on the front page, the answer is simple, we just need everyone to spend £25k on a Merlin and do events like Salcombe Week. Come to that, Cowes Week is doing ok too. Sailing coming across as elitist and out of touch? Surely not!
There is a good reason why families are spending a few hundred quid on Paddleboards to use on their local piece of water (for less than the the cost of just getting to Salcombe) rather than buying dinghies, joining Clubs, buying sailing gear, paying for insurance etc. So, so many are struggling to keep up with the cost of living and its all about to get a lot, lot worse (apart for many in their 50's, 60's and 70's who we know make up the vast majority of  dinghy sailors). I'm afraid that 'fiddling whilst Rome burns' springs to mind when reading what may appear to be a rather tone deaf article like this about how we can 'save' dinghy sailing. 
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