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    Posted: 12 Jul 22 at 3:48pm
Originally posted by Mozzy

Originally posted by turnturtle

The conundrum of servicing the needs of those who might get in the Top 5 or 10 vs providing enough bang for buck to get the middle and end of the fleet to even show up, is nothing new.

Who knows, with foreign holidays and flights getting ever-so much more expensive, then perhaps a nationals event somewhere decent on UK coastline, tied into a wider family holiday, might not be done-for quite yet.

I just got back from Merlin Week. Bit of a deviation from the sailing I normally do, but also very fun. Different, but works well for the same reason that Fed week works well (or most regatta weeks for that matter). One race a day so plenty of time for family and very little time waiting between races.



sounds like a perfect compromise

I'm not in the UK these days, but I can't imagine the prospect of a conventional UK holiday would hold much appeal.  I'd honestly rather stay at home given there was nothing wrong with my gaff.

Chuck a bit sailing/windsurfing/paddleboarding into the mix, guaranteed - not just 'promised', then the calculus changes.... but too much sailing, then it's not really fair on the rest of the family either.


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Originally posted by Mozzy



But even toward the social end of the fleet people often over egg the number of races they want... If you poll the fleet facebook group 5 months out from the event I would Imagine more races often getting more votes... but come the 4th races of a 20 knot day with a few recalls and breakages thrown in, then the attrition rate is stark, not just on the water but the knock on impact to the bar takings the same evening too!  

This is so true. The other point when you have a mix of competitors ranging from those who will sit in the boat park till 19:00 on the off chance of a race to those who after an hour want to build sandcastles/go to the eden project/lands end/etc etc its really hard to strike a balance.

The balance - in some ways unfortunately - has to be towards the family sailors as the the upper echelon will come to your nationals almost regardless if the racing is good. Put the families off and youll struggle to make 25 boats. In pretty much any fleet.


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Originally posted by Paramedic

Originally posted by Mozzy



But even toward the social end of the fleet people often over egg the number of races they want... If you poll the fleet facebook group 5 months out from the event I would Imagine more races often getting more votes... but come the 4th races of a 20 knot day with a few recalls and breakages thrown in, then the attrition rate is stark, not just on the water but the knock on impact to the bar takings the same evening too!  

This is so true. The other point when you have a mix of competitors ranging from those who will sit in the boat park till 19:00 on the off chance of a race to those who after an hour want to build sandcastles/go to the eden project/lands end/etc etc its really hard to strike a balance.

The balance - in some ways unfortunately - has to be towards the family sailors as the the upper echelon will come to your nationals almost regardless if the racing is good. Put the families off and youll struggle to make 25 boats. In pretty much any fleet.

Don't bother going to Lands End, it's an over-priced, disappointing waste of a day out. Plenty of better things to do in Cornwall

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Paramedics point about what demographic of the attendees to aim at I think is the most important. You should aim to make the event for the mid to back end of the fleet. Without them there’s only the equivalent of an open meeting. Make it sociable and if at all possible camping/campervans on-site too. I always found the best venue for me was Stone SC. Middle of nowhere, camping on site which meant almost everyone stayed at the club and lots of beer was drunk, etc. many friends made by all which cemented nationals attendance again and again.

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I sailed past Stone at the weekend, plenty of boats out - even saw a guy on an RS600 completely bossing it in a F5, looked like he had a 600FF sail up with the square top... amazing to think that's a 30 year old design now.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

I sailed past Stone at the weekend, plenty of boats out - even saw a guy on an RS600 completely bossing it in a F5, looked like he had a 600FF sail up with the square top... amazing to think that's a 30 year old design now.

The new sail for the 'regular' 600 is now a square top. Actually, it could even have been one of the actual brand-new boats that have recently been built. 
There's been quite the revival with the 600.
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Yep, the new black square top has brought it bang up to date and on occasions, my boat has been mistaken for a new class. 21 boats entered for the RS Games, a healthy number given the high cost of entry. Next year we are back at Stone, should hopefully get a few more boats due to it being more possible to do it on a budget with the onsite camping
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The Blaze Nats were at Stone this year, great club, lovely people and very well organised event. We had 43 boats and onsite camping was pretty much full as far as I could see. The boat park was busy too, I suspect it would be pretty crowded with 70+ boats.

Great event, I would go again. We got 8 races over three days in good breezes, well over 20 knots at times but that was manageable for a 69 year old back of the fleet club sailor. One race a day would not work for me as I go the these events to sail not to see the sighs.
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The 200's just hit 150 entries (not all paid up). Pretty impressive with a month to go. 
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