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    Posted: 04 Jul 22 at 9:45am
This is an interesting question and I also think that there are a lot of events overlapping right now, which is affecting some choices! 
I know the solo's and OK's overlap. Salcombe Merlins and FF15's overlap this weekend. The RS Games will take away sailors that sail in multiple fleets. 

I also wonder if local events will be bigger than normal this year with people staying at home, so will events like Chichester Harbor week be better attended?

Personally I feel it may be more of a COVID knock on. Last year people were gagging to do events and get away plus I think there were less events, so people picked a nationals and committed, whereas this year there is much more going on, plus the ability to go abroad, so more demands on time.
I am still doing my nationals, but have cancelled the accommodation and am camping to keep costs down.


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Also, people are still getting Covid. It seems that even now, every week at least one person I know is getting it. People are still having to cancel plans and are cautious about committing. Some people may be less than thrilled about cramming into a small Sailing Club bar even now.
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Having joined the RS400's this year it's been a complete c**k up by RS in the calendar to be honest and having the Nationals in Scotland (East Lothian) when the RS Games is on 2 weeks before (which the RS400 Southern Champs is 2 weeks before that), along with an extortionate entry fee makes the event completely nonviable for so many.

Covid is clearly still an issue, but ramped fuel prices, high entry fees and accomodation and simply not having the time is making events a right-off for so many now. Even I'm contemplating reducing my events to just the 2023 Nationals because of this.   
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Originally posted by gbr940

.... with an extortionate entry fee makes the event completely nonviable for so many.

Wow - I've just look that up and £295 is pretty steep for sure. That with the combination of peak holiday season and a festival being on at the same time is going to make it quite a painful week financially for some. The webpage is only showing 25 entered compared to 50 last year.
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Unfortunately it looks like for the 400's a lot of people have selected the Carnac/ Rs games route (where they are getting a 3 day regatta) instead of going to Scotland for the nationals

The 200's have done the opposite, hardly anyone going to the RS games (2 day regatta) and 120+ for the nationals in Hayling island. 

Realistically the location of the nationals plays a big part and Scotland probably puts a lot of people off compared to the south coast.

I would agree some of the event organising this year has not been great. Multiple events cancelled days before the event and even loss of accommodation costs because of it.  
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The thing is, though, if you are genuinely a GB wide class you have to have champs in Wales, Scotland, and even [whisper quietly] Northern England, and accept that turnouts will be lower at some venues.
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and you should probably squeeze one in to Belfast whilst you've still got the opportunity  Wink
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Originally posted by ClubRacer

Unfortunately it looks like for the 400's a lot of people have selected the Carnac/ Rs games route (where they are getting a 3 day regatta) instead of going to Scotland for the nationals
The 200's have done the opposite, hardly anyone going to the RS games (2 day regatta) and 120+ for the nationals in Hayling island. 
Realistically the location of the nationals plays a big part and Scotland probably puts a lot of people off compared to the south coast.
I would agree some of the event organising this year has not been great. Multiple events cancelled days before the event and even loss of accommodation costs because of it.  

Having been to North Berwick last summer I would choose there over Hayling and Cornwall every time. I believe it's a shorter distance to Berwick from London than going to Mounts Bay. Great food great sailing great beaches. And you don't need to sail five miles to get to the race course.
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Originally posted by ClubRacer

Unfortunately it looks like for the 400's a lot of people have selected the Carnac/ Rs games route (where they are getting a 3 day regatta) instead of going to Scotland for the nationals[DIV][/DIV][DIV]The 200's have done the opposite, hardly anyone going to the RS games (2 day regatta) and 120+ for the nationals in Hayling island. [/DIV][DIV][/DIV][DIV]Realistically the location of the nationals plays a big part and Scotland probably puts a lot of people off compared to the south coast.[/DIV][DIV][/DIV][DIV]I would agree some of the event organising this year has not been great. Multiple events cancelled days before the event and even loss of accommodation costs because of it.  [/DIV][DIV][/DIV][DIV][/DIV]

Having been to North Berwick last summer I would choose there over Hayling and Cornwall every time. I believe it's a shorter distance to Berwick from London than going to Mounts Bay. Great food great sailing great beaches. And you don't need to sail five miles to get to the race course.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

and you should probably squeeze one in to Belfast whilst you've still got the opportunity  Wink

We looked at holding the nationals for the Yeoman class in NI, unfortunately £400 return ferry costs with accommodation and meals in NI, boats travelling from Norfolk, Rutland and area other places meant a bill of around £1000 for 2 or 3 days sailing and two days travelling. It just wasn't economic.
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