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turnturtle
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Topic: Another club closurePosted: 30 May 22 at 4:59am |
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It might also have a perception of a lower environmental impact too - esp, if they ban motorised boats
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Posted: 30 May 22 at 7:32am |
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This is partly true at best. There are occasional National level fishing events at Chew Valley that offer big prizes - new cars etc. These are about once a year. Other than that the lake is plenty big enough to race on with a handful of fishermen (fishers?) dotted around occasionally. In over 20 years at Chew I can count the number of times I have played “second fiddle” on one hand. But, yes, they do pay a lot for the privilege of fishing on the lake and we do have to give them room on the odd occasion they are in the way.
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Posted: 30 May 22 at 8:13am |
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I’ve always found fisherpeople (people who hunt them for sport, not those who identify as fish) as very reasonable and considerate cohabitants of inland lakes and waterways, although I know there is perceived antagonism from other sailors and vice versa no doubt, with fisherfolk in other areas
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Posted: 30 May 22 at 8:38am |
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I haven't sailed at Chew for a very long time, when I did 2/3 of the lake area was 'fishing only'. A yearly fishing permit is £870. The water co's income from fishing is substantial, they have other lakes where sailing has never been permitted. There are other watersports which pay good money for lake use, like waterski and scuba. It makes sense for sailing collectively to only rent enough waters for the number of people actually sailing.
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Posted: 30 May 22 at 8:39am |
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Anglers, they should have been drowned at birth, anti social knuckle daggers, never been anything but a damned nuisance, ninety percent of the fish they put back die, tackle kills loads of water birds, litter everywhere, not just on our lake, most clubs around here have Issues, I suppose someone is now going to say they know anglers who are brilliant
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Posted: 30 May 22 at 9:51am |
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Don’t think anyone on here are going to say anglers are all brilliant. ![]() BUT maybe you might get the odd comment that just maybe your comment might just be a sweeping generalisation and a tiny bit harsh on millions of people that do a sport/pastime in much greater numbers than do our niche sport .
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Fly anglers are OK, we never have trouble with them. Swimmers and Anglers are a major nuisance at my club, Swimmers are very organised and vocal when you ask them to be aware of boats, they say you don't own the water, you avoid us, they also think its acceptable to use jetty for launching and diving off, all in all they are probably a bigger nuisance than the fish murderers.
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I wonder if there’s a parallel thread on an angling forum about dinghy sailors going something like “dinghy sailors are OK when they’re not all sailing the same type of boat, but if you encounter a gaggle of them all sailing boring white boats on their own, they’re right ar**holes”? |
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I can see that would be a problem. Luckily we are the only users of our water. One of the few advantages of sailing on a tiny severn Trent reservoir with a seven foot fence all the way round and locked gates that only Severn Trent and us have keys for
. We used to have some fishests as Severn Trent employees were allowed to fish but we never had any problems with them. These days companies like ST out source all their work so we now have the place all to our selves . |
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The narrower and smaller the water the more the problems with Anglers.
Here on the Dart we have plenty of anglers after Bass using club land just outside the clubhouse on the high tides. Always polite and clean up well. I can remember on the upper Thames that there was friction but only as they were fishing the opposite bank and we sailed through their lines. Difficult not to really. I've had more agro as a canoeist than a dinghy sailor from Anglers. At Oxford reservoir in the early 80s I decided to walk around the reservoir and ended up with a hook in my coat. I was at the bottom of the grass slope possibly 20m from the edge. Learnt my lesson. |
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