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    Posted: 14 Jul 22 at 8:15am
So it looks like LP Portugal is still running, and able to provide Laser hulls for a major event. It's good that sailing is included in such events.
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Here's the NOR - or equivalent anyway. It does seem that it was a Laser event, not an International ILCA event.

https://www.olimpiyatkomitesi.org.tr/Upload/Oran_2022/Yelken_Technical.pdf

I spotted no mention of 'International' or ILCA in the document. Competitors had to supply their own sails, I wonder what logos were in evidence? I had a very quick look for photos but found nothing. Technically, I suppose, ILCA branded sails might have been illegal.

I believe there have been other 'minor' WS supported events that have used classes without International status. So I'm guessing that while it all looks very strange, there's probably not anything in the precise letter of WS regulations that has been broken. WS doesn't appear to have actively banned 'TheLaserClass', just denied it International status. And that's probably right. I'm not sure it's World Sailing's business to police classes that are not under the WS banner. Bad enough that they stop them calling their intergalactic championships Worlds.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 22 at 7:42pm
LPE's facebook may not actually be dead, but it's not exactly vibrant is it?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jul 22 at 7:00pm
There latest Facebook post - do you think they mentioned Laser enough and interesting spin

LaserPerformance is proud to have supplied the Mediterranean Games ( a World Sailing sanctioned event ) with Laser hulls for the event. We look forward to supporting similar events in the future with Lasers, particularly in emerging countries. The LaserPerformance-made Laser remains the only affordable One Design dinghy accessible to all. Special Thanks to Sailcenter and the Algerian Government who facilitated the transport and made this event possible. Congratulations to the winners: Laser Standard,Jean Baptiste Bernaz and Laser Radial, Marie Barrue.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Grumpycat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 22 at 7:28pm
LPE/ Laser has had  a very bad presence/ reputation in the US for years , that why the us laser class association was very glad to see LPE deselected as a Laser manufacturer. Sailors moaning a terrible supply of parts/sails/ boats and dealers moaning about have to pay up front for all supplies and still not getting all the parts they ordered. 
As I said I am NOT saying it’s true . It was told to me ( as a rumour) by a friend who works in the wider sailing industry. I also couldn’t find anything online so that’s why posted on here to see if I could see if anyone else knew anything.  Smile


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Post Options Post Options   Quote eric_c Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 22 at 6:46pm
Doesn't seem to be anything on the interweb about this, so where is the OP's rumour?
OTOH, LaserPerformance.com  seems to have a worse web presence than some dead people.
It looks like it's blocking some traffic to England though, if you enter via euroland you still see prices for stuff as if it's still trading.

Laserperformance (Europe) LTD was dissolved last June. Some holding companies involved.

A few million euro in EU grants is small beer, con-sultants take that many times a day for producing very little

Does this have any bearing at all on Laser in the US? I suspect not?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 22 at 5:11pm
Nothing in the Setubal local news, nothing in financial papers either, should surface soon though, millions of euros not going to be allowed to disappear.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 22 at 4:16pm
I found this.

https://www.einforma.pt/servlet/app/portal/ENTP/prod/ETIQUETA_EMPRESA/nif/515433764/

Your guess is as good as mine as to the fine detail, but it may mean very little. Its not hard to imagine the company appearing dubious financially, after all that fine new factory must have cost a fortune, no matter what grants they secured. Knowing, as I do, almost nothing about UK company affairs, let alone Portugal, it would be foolish to draw conclusions.

There's no reason why the Rastegar organisation shouldn't be as well versed in European law as US. The man himself was an exact contemporary of mine at the same college in London, although I don't recall ever meeting him.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 22 at 9:27am
Originally posted by fab100

Bonus if the pornstar is stillborn; who needs it. There’s plenty enough single-handers already


can we will still accuse the PYAG of nautical infanticide?

Edited by turnturtle - 29 May 22 at 9:27am
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 22 at 7:31am
Originally posted by turnturtle

AIUI - some v. wealthy people use debt-laden companies to help write off personal tax exposure - it kind of doesn’t matter what the company trades. They’d have to be quite unlucky to get their fingers burnt with such a stroll in the park, especially when the wealth management experts claim it’s nothing but plain sailing for optimising tax contributions
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