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CT249
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Topic: Another club closurePosted: 26 May 22 at 2:46am |
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The concept's being called "innovation overshoot" by some. As they say, "Sports, in particular equipment-based, “lifestyle” sports can experience a rapid rise in popularity but eventually technology-driven competition leads to equipment overshooting the capabilities and financial budgets of users. This ‘innovation overshoot’ leads to a decline in participation and the eventual collapse of the market for the sport’s equipment." The research I have done confirms that yes, many clinker/carvel dinghy owners were very disparaging about the boxy plywood boats, and of one designs in general. Reading Beecher Moore's accounts, the snobbery was such that many of the ply-boat owners went out and formed their own clubs on waterways that had not previously been used for sailing, so in some ways the snobbery could have been a good thing. It's hard to find a positive side in the current snobbery towards "mainstream" boats we often see. The weird thing is that the hype about hyperperformance continues even though they have been around for a couple of decades now and still not one such boat class has achieved real popularity. Never has reality been ignored by so long by so many.
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Grumpycat
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Posted: 25 May 22 at 11:06pm |
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Sorry i didn’t answer earlier, to busy sailing and having a laugh with friends.Base wind was 12mph gusting 22mph , finished 2nd and had a glass of wine afterwards. A very pleasant way to spend a Wednesday evening .
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Posted: 25 May 22 at 8:47pm |
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Sounds like you need to get on your club committee Eric and make the changes you want!
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eric_c
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Posted: 25 May 22 at 7:29pm |
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Conversely, you can learn things about 'sailing' the first time you cruise out of sight of land, or at night, which you will never encounter in a 1 hour race around a lake. The game of rounding a mark in a fleet of Lasers is one aspect of sailing, there are other equally fulfilling games like making an efficient passage around the tides of the Channel Islands. Being on port tack at the windward mark of a Merlin Open can feel like a safe warm place, compared to sailing into a busy port.
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423zero
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Posted: 25 May 22 at 7:02pm |
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There is one thing for certain, you learn more about sailing, 'racing' than bimbling or blasting about, only going about to go up and down, (blasting would shake you up if you 'gybed about').
Making a good course round buoys in a race. Beating to make a mark. Running, (surely the most frightening). Gybeing, (another frightening event). No amount of bimbling will force all these events in the space of an hour, not forgetting all the boats around you doing the same thing, nope racing is far superior.
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turnturtle
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Posted: 25 May 22 at 4:32pm |
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In my experience, yes. Even in the actual racing... it's far more tempting to bin off a final lap when you don't care what the result is in failing breeze at the end of an evening race, or if you have time constraint to consider at the weekend.
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turnturtle
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Posted: 25 May 22 at 3:44pm |
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turnturtle
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Posted: 25 May 22 at 3:42pm |
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I always read it back to front - highlighter circling the boats in the classifieds I wished I'd one day own, then Clubs and Classes - see if I could recognise a few names, or ideally find a write up of an event I was at. Never bothered reading the keelboat sections... but some of the other articles were a good toilet reading pre-internet days as an alternative to Viz.
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Sussex Lad
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Posted: 25 May 22 at 3:25pm |
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Very true. Subjectivity can make a fool of us all
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sargesail
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Posted: 25 May 22 at 2:35pm |
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An alternative way to put it is that we see things as we are not as they are. I was there, I don’t see it as you do. It is perhaps explained that once upon a time non-dinghy racer posters were 5% of 1000, but now they are 5% of50. So posts from them don’t pop up very regularly. |
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