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    Posted: 26 Apr 22 at 2:02pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

you should make some films about it... apparently it's a real issue.


Cannot surpass yours buddy. You must still have that somewhere, but IIR your wordpress pages are no more

My coaching advice these days is simply "get on the plate. PDQ"

We're getting off topic of laser composite top sections a bit though
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you should make some films about it... apparently it's a real issue.

12 years... feck me, has it been so long?


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Originally posted by fab100

 

You're not selling So-Slos to me David. Too much buoyancy, so you can't reach the plate if in the water. .

irony not lost in your username Clive ;-)

Wouldn't know James. I've only fallen out of it once in 12 years, out of many capsizes over the years. Most weird one was in Chichester harbour, when it inverted. Could not get it to shift from mast-straight-down. Hang on. Tide. Let's pull it the other way. Pop. No bother. 

And even if it inverts, I'm on top of the plate by the time the mast is horizontal
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Originally posted by fab100

 

You're not selling So-Slos to me David. Too much buoyancy, so you can't reach the plate if in the water. .

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We had a very good solo sailor at out club who rarely capsized, but when he did that was race over, it just took long to get back upright. Laser....capsize many times but it was nearly always quick and you got on with enjoying the race again.
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The Sprint (minisail) mk2, would almost right itself, one finger on the end of the centre board (yes a centre board). No buoyancy in the floor at the stern, you could almost swim aboard, easiest dinghy ever.    


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Originally posted by eric_c

How many times a season does the average Solo sailor capsize?

Some of the guys our Pond  - lots
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How many times a season does the average Solo sailor capsize?
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Originally posted by davidyacht

In a Laser, when you capsize in most cases you can swivel over the gunwale onto the centreboard, the boat is light and it pops up easily ... I practiced this extensively in my formative years.

In the Solo, the cockpit geometry does not encourage climbing over the gunwale, any attempt to find a foot step causes the Solo to turtle and in any case a Solo comes up dry if you "unweight it" and swim around.  

I should add that the much denigrated coffee table handles come into their own when trying to pull yourself back in after a capsize.

Next problem is that the centreboard is often just out of reach from the water ... righting lines or a buoyancy aid that doesn't ride up helps.

I suspect that the Laser and the Solo are an equal pain in the a**e in the event of a capsize to windward, when the helm may end up being a spectator to their boat blowing down wind without them.

As Fab100 points out, the capsize is best avoided in the first place, and for some a Solo is a brilliantly stable platform in a blow.



You're not selling So-Slos to me David. Too much buoyancy, so you can't reach the plate if in the water. Too little because it comes up full of water if you are on the plate. Worst of all worlds.
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