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    Posted: 19 Apr 22 at 12:27pm
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Originally posted by davidyacht

Will be interesting to see if the PY of a Laser diverges from that of an ILCA

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Will be interesting to see if the PY of a Laser diverges from that of an ILCA
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Originally posted by eric_c


Just remember that the Laser PYs are based on a lot more data than most others.


And always have been. In my time our local series was won by a Laser sailing off 1078, back in what 2004?Honestly I've lost interest in the whole charade now, which I know I'm meant to, because the whole thing is geared to make class racing seem the Holy Grail which it really isnt.
But whatever, every now and then, like this weekend just gone, something good happens, our youngest entrant has been away training in his Topper, and took both races on spreadsheet and nobody could be happier for him than me.

Lasers also have their place, they provide a good steady input of cheapskate tightwads which are of course perfect dinghy sailors and might one day become GP14 sailors.

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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Assuming the better sailors are racing at clubs that have fleet racing for L@sers their results won't show up in the returns. Add to that that it's likely to be, mostly, said better sailors who have adopted the carbon top section then that is unlikely to have much, if any, affect on the PN.

That doesn't explain why the PN has gone up though...


PN's go up because the RYA calculates that they've gone up.
Laser, IlCA, Ovington or people racing on the water get on with sailing, they don't have any role in calculating PY changes.

The 'carbon' composite spars are not much of a game changer, they just break a lot less often, particularly when Lasers are sailed hard at top level. The average UK PY puddle sailor probably didn't break many ali spars. People doing class events on the sea or big lakes were breaking too many, engineering out some of the recurrent breakages was well overdue.

Ironically, half-bright whining about the Laser's PY is a reminder why people like class racing where it's not an issue. Just remember that the Laser PYs are based on a lot more data than most others.
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It's not bad really I think it was his second or third post, he gave detailed instructions on how to cheat, his eleventh post and he is fed up.
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Originally posted by Demelza

Its very confusing and not helped by the same old crew that feel they must comment on every post.  

I'm sure this forum would be more widely used if this group restricted their posts so the rest of us can read other opinions and comments that also might  be more informative. 

I now feel obliged to comment ... no doubt GRF will have to comment on Laser/ILCA PY banditry 
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Originally posted by 423zero

You are behind the times new legal Lasers are now called ILCA, Lasers still ILCA legal, but, Lasers made by laser are not legal. Edited to add Lasers built by laser after a certain number are not legal.
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Assuming the better sailors are racing at clubs that have fleet racing for L@sers their results won't show up in the returns. Add to that that it's likely to be, mostly, said better sailors who have adopted the carbon top section then that is unlikely to have much, if any, affect on the PN.

That doesn't explain why the PN has gone up though...
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Originally posted by 423zero

No, number is slower year on year.


Oh. Must be the only class that adopted a carbon mast and went slower. Never mind, it was just my surprise at seeing carbon sticks on a Laser. I’ve not really sailed for two years, which explains a lot
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