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eric_c 
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 Topic: New Laser Performance Boat?Posted: 28 Feb 22 at 6:43pm |
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Racing against what? If the 8.5 is only 5% faster than a laser they should be having words with the designer. I doubt they care. It will all be about OD racing.
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iGRF
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Posted: 28 Feb 22 at 5:29pm |
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Well let's have a little side bet shall we ?
Now according to my little computer formula, that boat should come in around 1050-5 ish with the 8.5 rig. I bet the b**tards give it 1030-5 or less.. just watch. Can't have something coming to disrupt Laser or RS sales. Edited by iGRF - 28 Feb 22 at 5:30pm |
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eric_c
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Posted: 28 Feb 22 at 5:28pm |
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Whether it's a 'good boat' or 'successful' might deepnd on how you measure that. In my view, the Laser is not a very good boat (there are a lot worse though), but it delivers good racing, of a certain sort, to certain groups of people. That's what matters. The racing. It's not a concours d'elegance competition, it's not the Queen's Award for Innovation, it's a matter of making racing happen. Whether Por*star racing happens in a big way probably depends on a lot more than the merits of the boat. The ideal trick would be to hit the market head on with critical mass. There is a lot about it I like, there are things about I don't like/not sure about/(think they don't suit me). You can't please everyone with a SMOD, or singlehanders generally.
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Grumpycat
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Posted: 28 Feb 22 at 4:14pm |
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How ever good a boat it might be , it’s success or failure will have nothing to do with people on here being negative or a tiny trolls paranoid conspiracy theory about the PY committee.
If it’s a good boat it will have to be marketed well, have good build quality and have robust supply lines for the boats, sails and parts. If it has these things , it will be successful. Nothing I’ve seen in the last decade from Rasty companies suggest this is likely to happen , but you never know, they might have turned over a new leaf . Either way it’s just nice to have something new to talk about . Edited by Grumpycat - 28 Feb 22 at 4:18pm |
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H2
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Posted: 28 Feb 22 at 3:45pm |
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Interesting boat and concept; personally think it looks nice but also see it more as a boat that will end up on the list of people considering as an Aero, D0, Laser, Supernova etc rather than for those considering a phantom, blaze, H2 or Finn as it just looks to suit the smaller helm and the equalisation chart would also nod in that direction.
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H2 #115 (sold)
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iGRF
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Posted: 28 Feb 22 at 2:08pm |
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Well given the protectionism displayed here, not surprising then that the PYAG will probably also crucify it rather than take the efforts of that team at face value in that they genuinely appear to have tried to produce a better boat than the Laser could ever be.
Some more pictures     
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eric_c
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Posted: 28 Feb 22 at 12:17pm |
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The real question might be 'why doesn't this forum process the Enter. AKA carriage return, Linefeed key?'
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eric_c
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Posted: 28 Feb 22 at 12:15pm |
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Somebody sold the whole concept to the EU and probably did quite nicely out of it. There were some jobs on the LP website, titles suggesting selling one at a time was not the main plan. My guess is this will either disappear and be largely forgotten in 3 years, or it will be (arguably) the top SH class in Europe. And within 10 years, it will be surpassed by LP's next offering. Benjenbav churn 'classes' like that from 30 to 45 ft. Greying UK sailors will watch the racing in bar after floating around in their PY metaverse for a couple of hours on Sunday. Seriously, if this is going anywhere, I expect it to involve proper money, top sailors, sponsorship, media tarts etc etc, like Sail GP, the old L5000 eurocup and a few other attempts to 'engage the With any luck the circus will move on to the next model, dumping a a lot of used Por*stars on the market slightly before I'm too old to sail one. I'm increasingly convinced the '*' might be a 'k' by the way. And I think it might be the answer to The Big Question', because that question might be 'How the hell do we move on from the legacy horror story that is the Laser?'.
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iGRF
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Posted: 28 Feb 22 at 12:07pm |
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You can probably blame me for the Aero, after a lunchtime chat with Martin Wadhams at Southampton boat show a few years back(bear in mind he and I go back years to the dawn of windsurfing history) At the time the RS100 was all the rage and I was still wittering on about how heavy all the crap they sell and you lot buy and reminding him of Jack Holt when he was getting old and the Streaker (needing to be lighter). I pointed out his demographic (all pale, male and getting staler by the year)what they need is something light they can get in and out of the water easy and wasn't too complicated to sail. This is what we all want and now we have the Pornstar as well, I've no idea who Rastegar even is, only what I've read here, but I do know that Portugal has had a load of EU investment which I'm grateful for, for what it has meant to the surf style board Industry part of which is still keeping me in the manner to which I've become accustomed. Honestly, this is a good thing, the more 'light is right' pressure is put on all the moron classes that insist on staying same ole same ole, the better imv. |
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JimC
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Posted: 28 Feb 22 at 11:47am |
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I'm not sure I remember anyone asking a question that resulted in the Aero. I should go hunting for old threads. Try this: https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11158&KW=rs+aero&PN=1&title=r-speculation I must admit it doesn't excite me, but little does these days. I've never really seen a role for ram bows on a racing dinghy*, and I thought weight equalisation was a dead duck, but who knows... *I think the boat has to be really long and thin for them to have a place. Edited by JimC - 28 Feb 22 at 12:10pm |
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