Hardware development

Originally posted by iGRF Originally posted by eric_c As for split rings, there are several alternatives, all of which cost and weigh a lot more than a handful of spare split rings. There you go again, all about price rather than performance let me guess, you're a GP14 sailor.

Originally posted by eric_c As for split rings, there are several alternatives, all of which cost and weigh a lot more than a handful of spare split rings.

There you go again, all about price rather than performance let me guess, you're a GP14 sailor.

Edited by iGRF - 10 Feb 22 at 6:25pm

Originally posted by eric_c I don't see kites or cats or boards racing very much at amateur club level these days? Likewise with other 'equipment based sports', look at cycling. People get out and race mano-a-mano under a bunch of restrictive rules, when did you last see any streamiliner recumbants racing?

Lot's of points I'd argue with on the basis of you would never know what you'd like until someone developed it, but to take your road bike point that is exactly the same as dinghys, for years road bikes were tied to arcane restrictions and riders just resorted to the best chemical enhancement rather than any progress, which, all went on in Mountain bikes which bought all manner of advancements. Including suspension, brakes, gears, and now electric stuff, the only road bikes that went down that path were cheats.

Imagine a Road bike with micro suspension to deal with potholes and disk brakes, which have only just started to appear, Road bikers are exactly like dinghyists.

As to racing boards at Club level, thank the PY authority for refusing to issue boards with a yardstick and staid clubs for refusing, Bewl refused boards on Sundays for years. Our club was saved by windsurfers who now populate the dinghy park, I am however pleased to see clubs accepting wing foiling but as to racing them very unlikely for a while.


None of which is relevant as a reason for t**sers not developing a handy adjustment mechansims to the stays and being basically lazy or luddite in extreme, to perpetuate chain plates and split rings particulalry those that once dropped, vanish into the space time continuum.

Edited by iGRF - 10 Feb 22 at 5:21pm

Originally posted by iGRF Slowly some dinghy stuff has changed and to be honest the fact it's a quiet backwater of the world as far as the technological pace of change is concerned is in one sense part of its charm, but don't go thinking as far as the real world of modern equipment based sports are concerned dinghys have come on much out of jurassic world. Why? because the stupid class system holds it back, the pathetic protectionism from the PYAG stifles anything new and face it none of you want anything new and revolutionary in any way shape or form. The only class that has contributed any significant developments has been moths and frankly their rigs are or were still in the dark ages last I looked and restricted by either size or mast height I couldn't be bothered to find out which. Had that Box class we all talked of gotten going who knows what might have sprung up, I was fascinated by that adjustable rocker someone posted on the Laser thread from the national 12s class, so it's not as if the inventiveness isn't out there, it's just all in the wrong places. Merlin Rockets FFS National 12s they pretty much have to do something because the Sows Ear is so bad to start with. You can't expect an outfit like RS to develop anything radical they need an ROI, frankly I was surprised they even got the Aero off the ground, yet went and f**ked it up by making it too short and with a crap rig to support container shipping. The D0 spolit for a happorth of tar, a stupid baler and not enough consideration given to coastal sailing requirements. The H2? Its a single hander Merlin and that new Laser straight out of the 1999 playbook and as for hardware developments where, what? Most developments made for price and margin, I once offered to fund the development of a sliding mast track, they laughed. It is what it is, a world of old people set in their ways, very very slowly slding sideways into oblivion.

Slowly some dinghy stuff has changed and to be honest the fact it's a quiet backwater of the world as far as the technological pace of change is concerned is in one sense part of its charm, but don't go thinking as far as the real world of modern equipment based sports are concerned dinghys have come on much out of jurassic world.

Why? because the stupid class system holds it back, the pathetic protectionism from the PYAG stifles anything new and face it none of you want anything new and revolutionary in any way shape or form. The only class that has contributed any significant developments has been moths and frankly their rigs are or were still in the dark ages last I looked and restricted by either size or mast height I couldn't be bothered to find out which.

Had that Box class we all talked of gotten going who knows what might have sprung up, I was fascinated by that adjustable rocker someone posted on the Laser thread from the national 12s class, so it's not as if the inventiveness isn't out there, it's just all in the wrong places. Merlin Rockets FFS National 12s they pretty much have to do something because the Sows Ear is so bad to start with.

You can't expect an outfit like RS to develop anything radical they need an ROI, frankly I was surprised they even got the Aero off the ground, yet went and f**ked it up by making it too short and with a crap rig to support container shipping. The D0 spolit for a happorth of tar, a stupid baler and not enough consideration given to coastal sailing requirements. The H2? Its a single hander Merlin and that new Laser straight out of the 1999 playbook and as for hardware developments where, what? Most developments made for price and margin, I once offered to fund the development of a sliding mast track, they laughed. It is what it is, a world of old people set in their ways, very very slowly slding sideways into oblivion.

Edited by iGRF - 10 Feb 22 at 3:29pm