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    Posted: 20 Nov 21 at 11:15pm
When I was helping run club racing for Raceboards (windsurfers) we had about 8-10 racers on a Thursday night. We avoided the problem of duties by running gate starts on the water, 3rd in the last race was gate and off we went. Pursuit races are easy to organise for casual handicap racing in a similar way but equally benefit from a suitable mindset from the racers
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Our club has run a pursuit as the sunday morning race for over twenty years. Now there are very few sailors the RO can join in the pursuit because the starts are so easy and people know their start time.
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My home club run three or four pursuits a year but 6 handicap races* nearly every week during the season and two races every Sunday most of the winter.

* Some club races and the open winter series' have a fleet start for Solos.
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My club run a handicap race then a pursuit, then another handicap, every saturday all year, no closed season. Paper and pen, hooter and flags with a digital countdown clock.
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Originally posted by A2Z

How many clubs run pursuits on a regular basis rather than just once or twice a year?
 

Great question  Smile

In my case I have been a member of three clubs in my 30 years of sailing.
All three clubs ran mostly pursuits with the odd handicap race mixed in. 

Tbh I would think most clubs run mostly handicaps with the odd pursuit mixed in . 
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How many clubs run pursuits on a regular basis rather than just once or twice a year?
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Originally posted by 423zero

The technical side isn't the issue, it's the dozen different boats and humans.

Really sorry but I still don’t understand your problem as the above statement also applies to handicap races too.

The only time pursuits can get complicated is when you run personal handicap pursuits when every boat can have its own start time and the gap between the slowest and fastest can get to be excessive. ( some clubs limit the amount a handicap can move to mitigate this problem .)

Pursuits are not perfect but neither are handicap races ,they just have different strengths and different weaknesses 


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At my old club it was pretty common for the RO to set the course, start the clock which was automated with hooters and a finish hooter and then join in the race so long as everyone remembered who was directly infront and directly behind them its easy to then just get people to write the results on a piece of paper when they come back in. That has to be the definition of simple?
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I'm in the 'pursuit races are easy' camp here. For a small <25, casual fleet they are an absolute doddle, big fleets make things a bit more complex but still no more difficult that handicap. At my holiday club we run several each season, beach starts and we time to the second, it's pretty easy for non-sailing friends/relatives to understand, run the starts and log laps then everybody remembers who they had last passed or been passed by to fine tune the results as the RO's work from the shore.

I do get that there may be disputes if the racing is in a competitive fleet due to the lack of a fixed finish line but for (relatively) friendly club racing I think it works well.

I'm looking forward to the day we can pit our young Int Moth sailor against a Topper or two, I think hell only have to pass then about 5 times  Ouch


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The technical side isn't the issue, it's the dozen different boats and humans.
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