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andy h ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 69 |
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I'd love to see a protest in the ILCAs where someone contends that the water was actually 1.6m deep during the raised rudder racing.
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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Most people I see with rudders up is because they haven’t noticed or because they don’t actually know they should be fully down.
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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I do on my D-Zero if sailing in a shallow lake with weed.
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Paul
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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That;s new since my ILCA/Laser days then.....
Most inlands clubs that suffer from weed tend to turn a blind eye for club racing on that though. |
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Paul
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GML ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 94 |
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The ILCA/Laser class rules actually allow you to sail with the rudder raised in shallow water: "14.(j) The rudder shall be maintained in the full down
position except whilst racing in water less than
1.5m deep unless otherwise specified in the sailing
instructions."
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KazRob ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Oct 16 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 245 |
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I'm sure I have heard of the Aussie Musto Skiffs regularly sailing with dagger style rudders half up in some conditions
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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As others have said nothing in the RRS but class rules may prescribe that the rudder must be fully lowered during racing (like the ILCA/Laser for one).
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Paul
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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Dagger rudder would sort that one Interesting situation where someone can establish room going down a beach having little control, while the boat with the rudder down might be more in control, but has to give room
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423zero ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 08 Jan 15 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3420 |
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There is also a substantial increase in load through the rudder and associated fittings, possibly leading to breakage.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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There are classes which require the rudder to be fully down at all times, but that's a class rules thing. There is nothing in the racing rules of sailing requiring you to sail with a rudder at all!
What isn't permitted is to use the rudder for paddling or sculling, to propel the boat or even scull the stern round in a tack, but although having the rudder part up may make such illegal actions more effective, its not banned per se. |
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