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    Posted: 18 Apr 21 at 8:19pm
There was an unstated trapeze boat back in the 80s, alloy mast.  If the market thought a new trapeze boat would sell they could easily produce an unstated trapeze boat. Too late on a Sunday to do the maths . Like it or not any growth or at least slowing of the decline is in existing classes, hiking boats and single handed boats. Adding beam, wings etc are replacing trapezes and D-One, RS300, Waszp prove an unstayed mast is up to the job. 
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When you can trapeze off an unstayed rig I'll agree with you and other than the D0 rig, all the others are pants, you can't call an Aero rig for instance "the Future","days of future past" maybe, simple possibly and I have no problems with simple or the Aero in particular, but my boat came with shrouds and I need to deal with them eficiently and easily and so far I've not come across a system that enables that.

I did consider a trapeze locking system so you could use them on an unstayed rig by securing the opposite side by a hook, I thought that might work then I wondered what might happen when the boom swung out.
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With the market moving towards single handed boats the R&D has gone into sail and mast development without the need for shrouds. Simple systems where a couple of controls can control the rig are the future. Obviously multiple rig sizes are also popular and probably considerably cheaper than all the complexity of letting off shroud, adjusting rake etc etc 
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Originally posted by Oatsandbeans

I agree the best way I found was a braid eg dynema going up and down a few times to give a purchase. To mark the position I used to whip on twine at critical positions in bands one two and three to mark the “fast” positions


Got to see that, any pictures? Not quite sure I follow, braid, how does that work?
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I agree the best way I found was a braid eg dynema going up and down a few times to give a purchase. To mark the position I used to whip on twine at critical positions in bands one two and three to mark the “fast” positions
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 21 at 6:57pm
So your task Jim should you choose to accept it, is to find and post the secret Merlin diagrams and post them here.. Naturally your actions will be disavowed by the agency should you be caught and all knowledge of your existenced wiped.   (With acknowledgements to the Mission Impossible franchise)

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Wingnuts, chain plates, get a Laser... Here's the news, it's 2021, the future you were never warned about..

We have that wire adjsuatble bidning system on snowboard boots boesystem is it? They use it on harnesses as well, dial the adjustment, surely something like that should be designed, where is the R&D in dinghyworld?

Then again what I really want is that Merlin system where you pull or release on rope to adjust the rig. Then again I want to be able to slacken the lee shroud to let the boom out further downhill, just a little flick switch, not much to ask, maybe one of those lever things contenders use on their forestay.

Oh and fast pins? Had the whole lot fall down thanks to a fastpin, so thanks but no thanks.


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Get some wing nuts, you can do them up tight enough not to work loose.
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iGRF - the solution is easy get a Laser, you know want to 
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Chainplates and fastpins maybe? But I'm just a little nervous of fastpins myself. The locking nuts do need locking up reasonably tight or the bottle screws will loosen, finger tight ain't gonna do it.

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