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    Posted: 29 Mar 21 at 6:10am
What are the couple?
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Originally posted by Sailerf


Originally posted by Rupert

"Pen pushers in Hamble". I had hoped that some of the RYA stereotypes had faded away, but it seems the easy putdown will always be there. Sigh.

I do hope I am still allowed my own opinion in the Democratic republic of Brittan. I totally understand it might not be shared or liked much, but hopefully respected as mine, as I respectfully respect its your right to disagree with mine.  


My opinion is that your opinion is wrong, and my opinion is based on my job, which involves regular interaction with RYA employees.
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As I said I respect you opinion. Its a shame that that is not my experience or many that I know. Now we have agreed to disagree can we go back to the topic. 
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Originally posted by Sailerf




So as a member of a class that is regulated by the RYA from your statement the requirement is fulfilled. Thanks for the making that clear. 


Interesting point but I think that being measured and managed by the RYA and affiliated to the RYA are not the same thing. I'd be interested to hear input from someone with more knowledge on that point.
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I believe you are not a full member if you are only affiliated.
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Interesting point made by Sailerf. The RRS state that a boat can be entered by:
(a) a member of a club or other organisation affiliated to a WS MNA
(b) such a club or organisation, or
(c) a member of a WS MNA.

If your class association is a National class, it must be affiliated to its MNA. If it is a World Class sailing association, WS regulation 10.5 states:
'A World Sailing Class shall:
 (g) use its best efforts to ensure that the national association is affiliated to the relevant National Authority.

Whether it is affiliated or not will depend on the class association (or national sub-entity). It would be interesting to find out from World Sailing whether it is legitimate for a sailor to sign on as a member of a class association affiliated to the RYA without being a member of either a sailing club or the RYA as a personal member.


Edited by deadrock - 29 Mar 21 at 2:29pm
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Frankly the affiliation thing is a load of nonsense who is going to ever check it.
a few years ago a certain Javelin said it was a member of our club for open events, after a few years we eventually wrote to them asking for there membership, funnily they started using another club.
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I was a "Stoneybridge Corinthian" for many years as a young man. No one ever asked... in fact I reckon I went to at least one World Championship on that basis!

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Stoneybridge Corinthian has a nice ring to it - shame it isn't real, really.
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I remember reading in Y&Y in the early 90s of travelling sailors at the front of the N12 fleet who were members of “Shake yer beans yacht club”. They still managed to win events, so the idea of affiliation being a barrier appears to be false in reality.
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